Loose Gravel Destroyed my PPF….
#123
The protective qualities of Expel PPF recently exceeded my expectations. Driving on I-95 in South Carolina, a golf-ball size rock fell off a heavy equipment transporter, bounced off the road and onto my hood, flew into the windshield, and over the top of my car. I pulled into the next rest stop and found dents in the hood, gouged PPF, and damaged paint. The windshield survived unscathed because of a windshield protective film.
When the PPF shop removed the PPF, they found no sign of paint damage. A dent technician (The Dent Company, Tampa, FL) did his magic, and the car hood got new PPF.
A few thoughts:
At the time of the initial PPF installation, the AutoPaintGuard, (Tampa, FL) team recommended the thicker ten mil XPEL as I frequently travel on interstate highways. Thinner PPF may have allowed paint damage. I also had a second layer of PPF applied to the rear wheel fender's forward sections.
AutoPaintGuard gave the same advice regarding windshield protection. I agreed as I reasoned windshields get sandblasted, and the chips collection becomes annoying after a few years. I never anticipated fending off a rock at interstate speeds.
The Porsche Safeguard wheel dent protection policy didn't help. The policy requires the car to be at the dealership for the dent repair. The coverage has a provision that, under some circumstances, the dent repair can take place at an alternative location, but I couldn't get Safeguard's preferred tech to go to the PPF shop. Also, the dent claim must be on file before repair work. Photos and receipts don't matter. If you are okay with shuttling your car between the PPF shop and the dealer, you won't mind the Safeguard policy stipulations. I didn't bother with the Safeguard policy and paid for a dent technician recommended by AutoPaintGuard—excellent results and saved a few days of downtime.
When the PPF shop removed the PPF, they found no sign of paint damage. A dent technician (The Dent Company, Tampa, FL) did his magic, and the car hood got new PPF.
A few thoughts:
At the time of the initial PPF installation, the AutoPaintGuard, (Tampa, FL) team recommended the thicker ten mil XPEL as I frequently travel on interstate highways. Thinner PPF may have allowed paint damage. I also had a second layer of PPF applied to the rear wheel fender's forward sections.
AutoPaintGuard gave the same advice regarding windshield protection. I agreed as I reasoned windshields get sandblasted, and the chips collection becomes annoying after a few years. I never anticipated fending off a rock at interstate speeds.
The Porsche Safeguard wheel dent protection policy didn't help. The policy requires the car to be at the dealership for the dent repair. The coverage has a provision that, under some circumstances, the dent repair can take place at an alternative location, but I couldn't get Safeguard's preferred tech to go to the PPF shop. Also, the dent claim must be on file before repair work. Photos and receipts don't matter. If you are okay with shuttling your car between the PPF shop and the dealer, you won't mind the Safeguard policy stipulations. I didn't bother with the Safeguard policy and paid for a dent technician recommended by AutoPaintGuard—excellent results and saved a few days of downtime.
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#124
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The Colgan Bra is not as dorky looking as I thought it would be. The fit is actually really good. They're made to order. It required a bit of stretching which the directions say is intended.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.
Last edited by garthg; 06-28-2023 at 04:34 PM.
#128
Burning Brakes
If you do a re-install, ask your PPF guy to make the rocker / wheel hip area a separate, standalone piece of PPF. That way, they only have to rip off and reinstall a small piece instead of the entire large piece of PPF. My PPF guy did that and thought it was genius
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The Colgan Bra is not as dorky looking as I thought it would be. The fit is actually really good. They're made to order. It required a bit of stretching which the directions say is intended.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.
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[QUOTE=The Colgan Bra is not as dorky looking as I thought it would be. The fit is actually really good. They're made to order. It required a bit of stretching which the directions say is intended.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry but I will say what everyone else here is thinking in that this is not good. Not just questionable looking, but more importantly in what its going to do to your paint overtime. The edges will fill with tiny grains of dirt, sand, etc and build up. even if you plan on removing after every drive and carefully cleaning the edges and putting back on, that will be bad with all the on and off marring it will do over time.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry but I will say what everyone else here is thinking in that this is not good. Not just questionable looking, but more importantly in what its going to do to your paint overtime. The edges will fill with tiny grains of dirt, sand, etc and build up. even if you plan on removing after every drive and carefully cleaning the edges and putting back on, that will be bad with all the on and off marring it will do over time.
Last edited by meyecul; 06-29-2023 at 12:23 AM.
#131
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Coltan bra still working
Bugs aren’t too heavy yet but at six hundred miles so far this trip it’s doing its job.
Last edited by garthg; 06-30-2023 at 07:15 AM.
#132
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has anyone had any luck getting the under sides of the rear bumper repaired to a smooth finish yet? a respray or can a good detailer fix?
i let mine get a few thousand miles on mine and need to do a rear PPF but noticed that road rash just on the ends of the rear bumper. anyone had any luck getting fixed?
i let mine get a few thousand miles on mine and need to do a rear PPF but noticed that road rash just on the ends of the rear bumper. anyone had any luck getting fixed?
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has anyone had any luck getting the under sides of the rear bumper repaired to a smooth finish yet? a respray or can a good detailer fix?
i let mine get a few thousand miles on mine and need to do a rear PPF but noticed that road rash just on the ends of the rear bumper. anyone had any luck getting fixed?
i let mine get a few thousand miles on mine and need to do a rear PPF but noticed that road rash just on the ends of the rear bumper. anyone had any luck getting fixed?
this can be accomplished two ways:
1. full repaint back to factory oem
2. a skilled spot blend repair where the chips are filled and the edge is repainted and blended into the rear bumper
option 1 will cost more, but it’s as good as new
option 2 is a great value and you could clear bra the entire rear bumper with the savings of not doing option 1 and the look should be the same as option 1
hope this helps
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Vernin (06-30-2023)
#134
This thread amuses me. I am on my 7th 911 in 45 years and I never put any plastic on them because I drive them and when they get gamey on the outside and inside, I sell them and get a new one. The interior wears out about the same time as the exterior - yet detailers have convinced many of you that you NEED to spend thousands on protection products....why? Take that $ 10,000 you spent for double plastic everywhere, ceramic coating on everything, whatever armor-nonsense they sold you for the interior, and put that in a stock fund account and it will be worth $ 20K in 7 years when you are ready for a new 911. You will not get $ 20K more for your "perfect paint". Why Snowflake your car? It's a mass produced machine, not some rare one-off and its going to get wear and tear on it. When you go to trade it in, the small paint chips don't matter - you get wholesale price based on auction prices and mileage.
You know why your car gets paint chips? Because it has big, wide tires that stick out from the wheel wells, a styling thing. The old 911's (like my first 1970 E) had skinny tires fulling enclosed in the fender, they didn't get paint chips from tires throwing up rocks. But some even want their wheels to come out further via spacers or offsets on custom wheels for an "aggressive" look. Go figure.
Lest you think I beat my cars, I don't. I also know you can never get depth of shine/sheen over plastic. Your PPF car will never look like this after a Swissvax job. You just can't get the pop out of the paint when you cover it with plastic. But to each their own, a few paint chips never bother me personally.
You know why your car gets paint chips? Because it has big, wide tires that stick out from the wheel wells, a styling thing. The old 911's (like my first 1970 E) had skinny tires fulling enclosed in the fender, they didn't get paint chips from tires throwing up rocks. But some even want their wheels to come out further via spacers or offsets on custom wheels for an "aggressive" look. Go figure.
Lest you think I beat my cars, I don't. I also know you can never get depth of shine/sheen over plastic. Your PPF car will never look like this after a Swissvax job. You just can't get the pop out of the paint when you cover it with plastic. But to each their own, a few paint chips never bother me personally.
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The Colgan Bra is not as dorky looking as I thought it would be. The fit is actually really good. They're made to order. It required a bit of stretching which the directions say is intended.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.
The brief manual does state the obvious direction not to leave it on with a wet backing. Except for the hood section, it only touches the plastic parts of the bumper cover. It does cover most of the parts that will normally pick up the most rock chips and bugs.