Wait time
Drifting
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While the waits are long, something like that 2-3 year thing - what you are seeing there are people who are on lists at multiple dealers. One actual purchaser is probably on 5 lists, they won't be buying 5 cars of course, but they are on 5 lists. I bet many of these people, upon getting an allocation at a dealer, don't even both calling the other dealers to drop off their lists. So these lists are a mess, and frankly reflect the insanity of the allocation process. It would be better if every demand order required a $20K deposit. Only serious buyers would be on the lists, and no one is going to front $100K in real cash to be on 5 lists. Then you would really be able to gauge the true wait times. But of course, this is never going to happen. The dealers benefit from this type of allocation process, it artificially inflates demand and therefore ADMs - which is what they want.
Three Wheelin'
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It really depends. Lots of people on wait lists.. vast majority don't ever buy. I got on a wait list in March 2021. I was #6 on the list. He literally pulled up the list and showed me. I was told to expect to get the car by Dec 2021. By end of March, they told me I had an allocation and I ordered and got my car delivered in the beginning of Aug 2021 so it took me 5 months when the dealer estimated it would take 9 months.
Things are obviously different now, but there are still people able to get allocations and get their cars ordered, built and delivered well within a year and some people able to walk into an allocation that someone backed out on, but locks in a week, submit their order and get their cars in 3 months.
Things are obviously different now, but there are still people able to get allocations and get their cars ordered, built and delivered well within a year and some people able to walk into an allocation that someone backed out on, but locks in a week, submit their order and get their cars in 3 months.
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Due to the extremely long wait times just to get an allocation, I reassessed and planned to buy a used 911. Found some and went in to test drive. While there, I asked the SA about allocations, he said funny you should ask we have 4 and one you might be interested in. That was a couple weeks ago and put a deposit down. It arrives begining on Oct. Just plain luck I was able to order what I wanted.
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My dealer told me they thought it would be about a year before they could get me an allocation for the variant I wanted. Two months later they called me to offer me one that someone had backed out of. Best thing you can do is get in line now while you hunt around for a CPO car that has everything you want and not too much extra. Either you'll find a car you like, or your spot in line will eventually come up one way or another.
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Three Wheelin'
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Just J and 2thHappy's experiences are exactly what I'm talking about. Go talk to some dealers. Give them an exact spec w/ Porsche code. Let them know you're serious and not just kicking tires and you will see how quickly those 1 or 2 yr wait lists dwindle to getting an allocation within a month or two.
Racer
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From: MD, USA
Good advice here, as far as asking around, doing a 'demand order', etc. And stay on them (the dealers) on a regular basis - make regular contact. As you can see, experiences vary wildly when it comes to getting an allocation. I waited 18 months to get an allocation, and only got it because someone else backed out of it. I had no interest in CPO - I wanted to spec my own brand-new 911, plus I wanted ED. We all know ED is hard to get - I got lucky - but I was willing to get the car even if I whiffed on ED. Just wanted the new car, built-to-order, experience at a minimum.
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It's worth asking about other variants you maybe interested in. I found the C2S list was long and unmoving, but the GTS list had just a single person on it. So I switched and got an allocation within 2 months from the switch. My only regret was waiting a year in frustration before asking about other options.
If you're in the US, you can also ask about European delivery since that may move you up the list.
If you're in the US, you can also ask about European delivery since that may move you up the list.
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Sometimes I think the 2-3 year wait list thing is to weed out the tire kickers. I imagine that list is also like a Rolex list. Lots of people on it but not many ready to put up when the call comes.
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As another data point, I was told about 3 years for a 4S Cab at a dealer I bought a Macan GTS from several years ago and regularly service my 997 (and the Macan) at. Was offered an allocation about 9 months later, it was another 3m or so to lock date and another 3m to anticipated delivery in mid July. So about 15 months in total, a little less than half what was initially quoted.
I would also agree that the quoted wait is probably exaggerated a little for a variety of reasons... make it seem more exclusive than it actually is, drive desire for things you can't have, underpromise and overdeliver, weed out the people who aren't serious, etc. Also I'm sure some people on "the list" weren't all that serious to begin with, bought something else, got a 911 elsewhere, etc. However, its not consistent from dealer to dealer or even salesperson to salesperson so YMMV.
I would also agree that the quoted wait is probably exaggerated a little for a variety of reasons... make it seem more exclusive than it actually is, drive desire for things you can't have, underpromise and overdeliver, weed out the people who aren't serious, etc. Also I'm sure some people on "the list" weren't all that serious to begin with, bought something else, got a 911 elsewhere, etc. However, its not consistent from dealer to dealer or even salesperson to salesperson so YMMV.
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The key here to your question that for some reason seems to be so often overlooked when this question comes up is the "today" part. Keep in mind as you read through others experiences the actual current landscape of the market. Someone that went through the process and is currently driving around in their 911 will not be a true good basis today (June 2023) to form an accurate wait time estimate for someone looking to begin that process. The trim is also a factor. A Carrera S along with base Carrera are among the harder allocations to get at this given moment. As others have mentioned, best to just start calling dealers and letting them know what you are after. Sometimes people get lucky with their call being the right place at the right time. Only one way to find out.
Last edited by meyecul; Jun 7, 2023 at 02:18 PM.
Drifting
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They could weed out the tire kickers with big deposit requirements - but don't. If you had to leave $20K for every demand order, this mess would be cleaned up quickly. Only serious buyers would leave $20K in escrow for a car, and wouldn't leave $80K across 4 dealers in order to get 1 car. But the dealers want these lists to be long, so they accept no deposit demand orders.