F8Driver

RAS is nice for reduced turning circle, can't be sure if I see its effect on daily driving. Trust me, the car corners flat w/o PDCC, so unless you're going for the ultimate track GTS ....

Ifinallygotapcar

My goal was the ultimate track gts, and I don’t regret the RAS or PDCC. I think the main theme here is people becoming attached to their own build and defending it.

lithium battery alone seems to make the options worth it, lowers center of gravity and all that. For similar reasons I did the sun roof delete and manual seats.

After chasing ‘23 992’s without RAS/PDCC on track in my ‘23 92 that has them… I would spec my car the same every time. The grip and stability at the limit is incredible.

HOWEVER you build this car you’ll fall in love so don’t lose any sleep.

Cartod

Because a 992 without it corners like a logging truck. 🤣🤣🤣

Wilder

I gave this thought too. However, the replacement battery, and I believe it has to be that specific one, is $2,500. There are lighter Li batteries that seem to hold up better for $1k. It's one of the things I will swap out to reach my 100lbs loss goal which would've been some 30lbs harder had I ordered RAS. If you're going to track the car, it's worth considering. I already have a track car but though it through anyway and my conclusion was to nix it on the basis of the battery, the additional weight of the system and adding one more thing that can break, not to mention that I rather work on becoming a better driver than fall under the illusion that I'm better than I really am because the car is doing my work.

22992

somewhat agree, but on the other hand you’re kinda making a case to get rid of RAS because the car is getting out of hand with the Nannie’s.

-VTG is tech, but it makes the motor seem more like N/A, so I would say this is tech that increases “pureness” in that way.
-Pasm- agree, don’t need it or want it on my 911
-PSM- helps me not die and mandated, so…call this one out of scope
-PTV- agree and don’t need or want it
-PSE- agree don’t want or need
-VVT- Not really perceptible so no impact on “pureness”
-RAS- Only option on the list I can deselect to increase “pureness” so out it goes. If I could go dodge viper on all the other stuff I would, and would happily almost hit a tree accelerating from every stop sign.

Malakas

I think the car behaves very nicely on the street with the RAS. I think if that is your intended use for the car, or at least predominant use, it would be a nice option to have. Easier to maneuver at slow speed and park and maybe smoother on the high way.

I think it would probably be a lot of fun for the occasional track day but my mind has a hard time trying to figure out how the RAS +/- steering angle and the slip angle of the tires would work if you're really hooning it at the track.

I have SPASM on my S and I think it corners pretty flat. I race a M240iR on adjustable sways and MCS setup and it has more body roll than the 911. Depending on your handling preference sometimes it's nice to have a little roll feel as you load up the tires.

If I was going to spec brand new RAS yes, PDCC no.

Wilder

Even though it's a small angle, it does make a noticeable difference especially on fast sweepers. I'm sure it's a great contributor to the speed records of newer GT cars on the ring. However, for those who don't track, don't track enough, or do tighter tracks. the value is just not there and the risks are too high. Read the thread below. Some people with defective batteries (the Li ones that come with RAS), have been without a car for 4,6 and 8 months. Not a great way to enjoy your freshly spent six figures for the sake of better behavior on the street IMO. If that's not convincing enough, do a search for RAS failure. Not cool either.

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1299...n-battery.html

CanAutM3

I have 35+ track days so far on my RAS fitted 992 and I really like it. I find it mainly accentuates the expected behaviour of the car, so it feels very natural. I does require some getting accustomed to because the car reacts more promptly to inputs such as steering corrections or throttle lifts. However, once you’ve figured it out it, becomes completely natural to drive. It brings stability in high speed sweepers while improving handling response when you want to course correct.

F8Driver

I think a nice tweak for track, otherwise no. The car corners pretty doggone flat w/o it.

tna3

My 24 model with RAS didn’t come with Li battery. I think it’s the case for all 2024s. So you have the option to go with aftermarket Li battery without Porsche nannies down the road if you really want it.

malba2366

I don't think the battery thing is a concern currently. MY24 RAS cars have been coming with AGM batteries.

AlterZgo

The RAS is great for tight parking lots and making U-turns on residential streets. Additionally, it is excellent when making fast lane changes. I had to do that on a couple of occasions when another car swerved into my lane and I was able to make a very quick lane change at 80+ mph w/o upsetting the balance of the car. It was super stable even though I had to yank the steering wheel very abruptly. I've also had zero issues with my lithium ion battery for over 2.5 yrs - and this included not driving the car for a week to two weeks at a time during the pandemic without ever using a battery tender.

spnsprt

Can anyone elaborate on PDDC and car sickness? I get car sick pretty easily and I'll take Dramamine on track days. Would hate to one day get a car with something that for some reason makes it worse.

Fullyield

Do not buy an EV.

Xhip

I never suffered from car sickness on my 2024 gts with PDCC. But I felt very pleased with the flat cornering. You really feel that the car stays on its 4 wheels even in fast corners, where my c2s Standard PASM no RAS no PDCC had some roll. Not saying it’s better, i love that roll too that makes the car funnier to drive.
I’ll also say that PDCC can’t entirely erase suspension stiffness of GTS. You will suffer from bumpy roads, where standard PASM C2S rides really good