Newer base 911, or older Turbo?
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Newer base 911, or older Turbo?
Forgive me if this has been asked before. Sadly, I can’t afford a new 911. I really love the look of the 992. I also really want a cabriolet.
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
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You can't go wrong with any of them. The older TTS has likely completed it's major depreciation curve and will likely stay worth around what you'd pay for it for a year or two. I'd also expand your search to 2014+ TTS Cabrios. They might come in at the number you're trying to hit. 991.1 TTS is an absolute beast; as is the 991.2 (2017).
The 911 cab indeed meets the requirements for tracks local to me (midatlantic); the main thing tracks usually look for is rollover protection. Without having direct experience in SoCal, It's very likely the same there.
The 911 cab indeed meets the requirements for tracks local to me (midatlantic); the main thing tracks usually look for is rollover protection. Without having direct experience in SoCal, It's very likely the same there.
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A 2017 Turbo S is a lot more car for the money than a 2020 Base Cab. I would go for the Turbo S but only you know what you want.
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Forgive me if this has been asked before. Sadly, I can’t afford a new 911. I really love the look of the 992. I also really want a cabriolet.
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
That might go a long way towards helping you make the decision.
I can tell you how each car drives for me, but that's largely irrelevant to you because you are not me.
Go and drive them if you can, that's the best way to answer your question.
But just based on looks and styling alone, it would seem the 992 C2 Cab is the right choice for you b/c you like the way the 992 Cab looks (which is rather different form a 991 Turbo widebody that is also a coupe) and you like cabriolets.
As to tracking in SoCal, there should be no problem with an open top.
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Forgive me if this has been asked before. Sadly, I can’t afford a new 911. I really love the look of the 992. I also really want a cabriolet.
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
Steering feel is better on the 992 and the newer car will feel lighter and more tossable. The 991 Turbo is a heavier feeling car. Personally, I prefer the 991 interior but I know a lot of people would disagree with that. Exterior is subjective as well.
If you’re getting a Cab, I’d say go for the 991TTS.
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Forgive me if this has been asked before. Sadly, I can’t afford a new 911. I really love the look of the 992. I also really want a cabriolet.
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
A 2020 base cabriolet is about the same price as a 2017 Turbo S. My assumption is that a typical Turbo will be loaded with options, and a little quicker than the non turbo.
I know very little about Porsches, so please help me. My daily driver is a Tesla Plaid, and my current weekend toy is a Gen 3 Viper. The viper is fun and unique on the street, and really fun to drive on the track. But the Viper is just, plain terrible on the street. One little bump will send you flying.
It’s my belief that the 911 has much better street manors. There is a reason every sports car maker sets the 911 as the golden standard.
The other reason for me to want a 911 might be a bit misguided, but I’d like to use the back seat for my 4 year old son. We only have one child, so I figure the back seat will be usable for him for at least a few years, maybe more. I don’t like to drive aggressively on the streets, so when he’s in the back, it’ll just be a nice cruise.
When it’s just me in the car, are there any track events in Southern California that will allow a 911 Cabriolet?
What are your thoughts? I’d appreciate any feedback you have.
thanks,
~Jay
I daily my 992 with two kids. You’ll love it
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I also say go with the CAB. Or you can look at a 991 Targa too. Same cool mechanism as the 992. And I agree with the previous poster about the seats. Kids love that back seat, and it's essentially a booster seat for the youngster. They will be safe and snug and stoked.
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I think you need to drive both. I have had, counting this one, two 992 base and a 991.1 Turbo. I traded the 991.1 to go back to the 992. It is entirely subjective but for me I really like the 992 styling and the turbo power, while nice, just wasn't useful for me on the daily. Finally, I really like the RW drive over the AWD. As I think was said earlier the 992, to me is more tossable.
Either way you can't go wrong.
Either way you can't go wrong.
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I have had a 991.1 S Cab and now have a 992 S Cab, the difference between the two series is substantial. The 992 may looks similar, but it's a different car and in my opinion, far superior to the prior generation. Speed is not everything, a base 992 cab will be fast enough to really get your attention and most people cannot drive them full out on the track, they are quick. 992 is larger, more comfortable, the switchgear inside is far better and it has a wide *** standard across the model range. Wide asses are important <g>. Turbos are for stop light racing and bragging rights mostly.
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Based on what you wrote, I bet you and your family enjoy the 992 Cab much more. All the power you need in the city. Will drive much better than both your current cars. Mostly, nothing will beat enjoying the car with your kid. And you can track it.
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My local Santa Clarita Porsche dealer doesn’t allow test drives for their 911s. But as much money as I’ll be spending, I’ll rent a 992 on Turo for a few days.
For raw speed, my Plaid fulfills that in abundance. What I really want is a gt car that’s a real sports car but also has a back seat, not a small sedan. I also really want a convertible. There are only two options for me. The 911 and the Aston Martin DB11. The Aston is beautiful, but it’s not as sporty as the 911, and it’s tech is from 2001. BMW has some options, but they aren’t special enough for my desires.
So the 911 Cab is my only option. Even Joe Rogan says everyone should own a 911 at least once.
I really don’t want to spend more than 130k. Right now, I don’t see any Carrera S’ for that price. Is the S worth waiting for, or should I just get the plain old Carrera?
It seems that Porsches have a million options. Which performance options are must haves?
~Jay
For raw speed, my Plaid fulfills that in abundance. What I really want is a gt car that’s a real sports car but also has a back seat, not a small sedan. I also really want a convertible. There are only two options for me. The 911 and the Aston Martin DB11. The Aston is beautiful, but it’s not as sporty as the 911, and it’s tech is from 2001. BMW has some options, but they aren’t special enough for my desires.
So the 911 Cab is my only option. Even Joe Rogan says everyone should own a 911 at least once.
I really don’t want to spend more than 130k. Right now, I don’t see any Carrera S’ for that price. Is the S worth waiting for, or should I just get the plain old Carrera?
It seems that Porsches have a million options. Which performance options are must haves?
~Jay
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You definitely don't need the S, even if you track it.
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[QUOTE][My local Santa Clarita Porsche dealer doesn’t allow test drives for their 911s.QUOTE]
Try Woodland Hills Porsche.
Try Woodland Hills Porsche.
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A turbo S is going to have center lock wheels. Huge PIA as far as I'm concerned since I swap wheels/tires winter and summer and don't want to mess with a 440 ft-lb torque wrench.
I've had multiple coupes and cabs but always seem to end up back in a cab. The 992 isn't bad, cabin noise wise, with the top up but it won't be as quiet as a coupe. And you can't put the top down on a coupe.
Only reason I ordered a C4S over a C4 was to get a MT. My 991.2 C4 had plenty of power (and you can always add a tune to a base car if you choose).
Also, get a SmartTOP module for the cab...
I've had multiple coupes and cabs but always seem to end up back in a cab. The 992 isn't bad, cabin noise wise, with the top up but it won't be as quiet as a coupe. And you can't put the top down on a coupe.
Only reason I ordered a C4S over a C4 was to get a MT. My 991.2 C4 had plenty of power (and you can always add a tune to a base car if you choose).
Also, get a SmartTOP module for the cab...
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