aggie57

the cost is certainly an issue but the battery issues are across AGM as well as Li-ion batteries.

Bezlar

just the high price of the li ion battery. I’ve read the threads about battery drain and having to take more care with the ion battery.

zachr

Have it. Honestly I think I've only noticed it in tight maneuvering where it gives me a tighter turn radius. I would need to drive a car with and without back to back to get a better handle on what's different.

My car is my daily, so no concerns with the battery. I've let it sit on a couple of trips (7-10 days) and had no issues upon return.

jlegelis

For the record, the 992 Turbo, GT2 & GT3 all come standard with RAS and Li battery, which to me represents an implicit endorsement from Porsche on the benefits of this feature. Also (refreshingly), no choice-driven angsty discussions on those forums either….

Full disclosure: I have it, like it, and would order again.

Dan006

can you return your photo? THANKS

Dan006

I haven't configured it and I don't miss it.

Staffie Guy

Don't miss what I don't have. I always preemptively replace my battery after 5 years and don't want to be tempted to procrastinate.

Bezlar

not sure what your asking. If you’re talking about my image for screen name. Rennlist is doing that for some reason. My photo is upright when I load. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Dan006

now she is ok ….
THANKS

3rdpedal

I have it. I spec'd it. I like it. I can feel the quicker nimbleness at lane changes. I can also feel it in other ways, short turning radius, other curves. Do I have to have it. Probably not, but it is nice.

As far as the battery, mine is a daily, but with the winter weather here, even with snow tires, I will sometimes go 2-3 weeks w/o driving. I have not noticed any battery issues to date (knock on wood) and have not yet used my tender in 22 months of ownership. That said, like anything in the modern tech world, I think there has been a very very small sample size of people with major drainage issues on that battery, and yes, PCNA requires a 6000 miles/year or something like that usage or they will stipulate that you are not driving the car and must bear the cost of the battery replacement. Personally I think that is a bit high as P-cars are known to not be driven that much. A 2000 miles/year car, I can see that being on the owner, but would say at 4k or 5k minimum PCNA should absorb the cost. And truth be told, I don't think this is happening to very many cars.

dhirm5

https://www.pca.org/news/if-the-pors...-pca-tech-tips

JCZ5

I have it on my Targa, no frame of reference to compare to a 992 without.

For those who say they do not want one due to battery drain...just add in a trickle charger. I "hardwired" it to the engine compartment with relative ease. Now just lift the hood and plug in the comfort connecter and all set.

CodyBigdog

I have it, and would get it again. The only real downside that I see is that it forces you into being fitted with the lighter weight LiPO4 battery….which has a longer lifetime, but is far more expensive to replace when time comes.

On the street: Helps with U-turns in tighter spaces, parallel parking, etc.
On the Track: Well, there are a number of YouTube videos, from seasoned trackers, that can tell you why it helps them on the track on tight curves.


My thougt on RAS is - If you are already committed to paying this much for a car, what is a few extra $k on something that can help handling/performance…after all, that’s what the 911 is all about.

dmbryson

I really love it. The turn-in is so sharp and nimble. To be fair, I don’t have a comparison with a non-RAS 992, so take with a grain of salt. That said, I would spec again. Indeed, I have it on the build for a Taycan (though still waiting on an allocation).

Macboy

From somebody who has a lot of experience with both of them.

About RAS it’s basically what kind of driver you are. The comparison with the GT3 makes no sense at all. It’s not because RAS is equipped on the GT3 it therefore also must be good on the regular 992. The GT3 has a complete different track oriented chassis. So it serves a different purpose.

The question for wanting or not wanting RAS is just what kind of a driver you are. So if you like your car to be track oriented than of course you need to consider RAS. It will make your times a bit faster. If you don’t drive on the track that much it’s a different story. The GT3 is not made for drifting and oversteer situations. Hence RAS is adding a lot of directness to the car. The car is much more planted because of RAS. The car feels more mid-engined instead of rear engined.

But you need to be prepared that RAS can give a fake/elastic feel. You need to get used to the feeling of the rear stepping aside instead of you doing it. It’s a distinct sensation of the rear end rotating around you on the bends. Especially between the speedrange where the tyres are changing directions (50-70km/h). That is the main reason I ask if you like slow or high speed corners. Interchanging between those speeds can feel very artificial. But you can love that feeling.

There is no right or wrong. It’s all about how you want to drive your car and what your own driving-style is.

My conclusion:

1. Do you like a more planted car? Do you like your car to be like on rails? Do you like the feel of a mid-engined car? Do you drive more high speed corners? Do you want the quickest track times? Do you want a C4? Then I think RAS definitely could be for you.
2. Are you more of a purist driver where you don’t want electronic involvement? Do you like to play around with the rear yourself? Correcting your car mid-corner? Are you a driver who likes oversteer and drifting? Do you drive more slower corners? Do you want a C2? Then I think you probably don’t want RAS.

I love RAS on my 992 4S. I will hate it on the 992 T.