Any potential insight or inner discussion about the changes to the motor ?
Is that twin turbo gem of a motor dying with the 992.1 generation ? Are only the "Turbo" cars going to be turbocharged?

 

No. The 4.0 N/A from the 718 cannot be adapted to the 911. The 992.2 will remain turbocharged and also likely become hybridized.

 

Who told you this, some random channel on youtube with less than 7k subscriptions?

 

Hahahah yes lol
Just saw it today

That being said that 4.0 N/A does seem to be under-utilized. All that investment for a motor that sold in a handful of 718 models. Seems wasteful to me. Sure its used in varying degrees, but wouldn't it seem logical to use that motor with the replacement car since 718 are now EV only soon?

So in my opinion it's highly likely....

 

I hope the 3 litre turbo gets replaced in the 992.2, as it will make my 2023 S more valuable being the last of its kind. Besides I like turbos better than NAs for their down low torque.

 

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911/20...s-manuals-stay

not saying it can't change, article is from 2020 but seems it's not so simple as utilizing an existing motor.

 

What investement? Isn't the 4.0 in the GTS 718 based off the 3.0L in the carreras? It's not a ground up design.

 

Everyone thinking that there is remote chance of the 718 4 liter being adapted in 992.2 is missing one crucial point. The 3.0 turbo engine was bored to get to the 4.0 with minor redesign to increase compression for NA application. It’s not an undertaking that requires Porsche to scale to volume to justify R&D.

 

Walliser said, and I've seen it repeated, that the 4.0 GTS 718 engine will not work in any manner in the 911 and they don't plan to go back to NA by redesigning from the ground up, not when they would still need a variant / evolution of the current engine for some markets to meet regulations.

 

This keeps coming up. No it’s not happening.

4.0 N/A would never be considered a “lesser” option regardless and Porsche already deploys a 4.0 NA in the GT3/RS/4RS. Makes zero sense.

 

How many threads will discuss this fake news? The videographer deserves a troll award of some sort.

 

It is confirmed fact. I saw it on the internet.

 

I have it from a reliable source that all 911’s are going v4 turbo + hybrid tech. My source is a 13 yr old kid on YouTube with 200 followers. Discuss.

 

They said the same thing about putting the GT3 engine in the Cayman. Ultimately that GTS 4L is based on the turbo 3L. They can do it easily if they wanted to, they blow smoke all the time. I think it makes sense to offer a sort of consolation prize 992 for people that want a GT3 and cant get one. 420HP NA 4L manual 992 would be nice and who cares if its slower than the turbo cars, just make it the 992.2 T.

 

Dropping the 718 4.0L engine in Carrera would make the car slower than the current Base Carrera. That engine makes less torque everywhere than the 3.0T with only a modest improvement in top end HP when you're rev'd up at 7k RPM. It's not a 9k RPM engine like the GT3, which incidentally, is a car that typically feels slower than the GTS on the street, unless you're somewhere in the GT3 that allows you to really open it up.

Taycan sales made the NA GT3 possible. Porsche is working hard to bring down its fleet CO2 numbers. The GT4RS is a send-off to the ICE 718. It's not a volume car and again, that engine was made possible by the Taycan sales numbers. Porsche put the NA 4.0L in the 718, because the 4 cylinder, intended to help sales in China and elsewhere, wasn't cutting it in the US. Nobody was buying that 4cyl 718 here and it's not like the 6cyl is hot seller either. It's all emissions and fuel economy math for Porsche. Another example? The Base Carrera doesn't get a manual transmission, because it's the volume 911 and that 8 speed PDK exists to elevate fuel economy numbers. Again, it's all about these numbers.

Frankly, I don't understand the obsession with NA motors. You don't see anyone wanting to go back to carburetors. Yes, the GT3 engine is awesome, but not every NA engine is awesome. Forced induction rocks -- better fuel economy, lower emissions, and more power everywhere with low end torque. Here's where we are going -- hybridization brings instant throttle response to the turbocharged cars. Nothing beats the throttle response of an electric motor. The hybrid/turbocharged future isn't a bad thing, that is... unless you prefer a wheezy NA engine struggling tor breathe at altitude on a mountain road.