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Old 01-08-2023, 01:20 PM
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992 GT3 and RS have a front protective mesh. The TTS has a very minimal "cage" protecting front-middle intercooler. Looks like other non-GT 992 have the same. Side intercoolers are not caged. I'm thinking of installing these on my 992 TTS. Hesitating because I hate doing anything that requires drilling a visible surface. Can't be returned to stock without covering/hiding/replacing drilled trim.

Here's what mine look like after 1,300mi.





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Old 01-08-2023, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 67SSWT
Agree that the cost is exorbitant for pieces of powder coated , wire mesh attached by ty wraps . However I removed a couple of handfuls of leaves blocking the radiator from a recent long drive.
Definitely a poor design from the factory
The RGS are quite flexible aluminum and are held with cable ties. The Zunsport are stainless steel and robust. They are held in place by clips that engage the rear surface of the opening's plastic surround plus a screw which attaches them to the triangular reinforcement on the high inner corner of the surround.

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Old 01-08-2023, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew46
Maybe, but factor in the R&D and design costs, costs of tooling and manufacturing, stocking and overhead costs and then consider the limited market. all things considered, I bet this is not a huge profit margin product for them.
I disagree completely. A couple hours messing around with shape, then fine tuning on the CAD, chicken wire, clips and maybe powdercoat, more likely sprayed. $15 landed. They probably stock 50 max for each car they make this for. Shipping is their highest overhead if they don't pass it on to the consumer. But they probably charge for shipping. I didn't check that far. Kudos. A nice revenue stream. But I digress. I'll be buying a set anyway cause like others said, Porsche screwed the pooch on this one.

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Old 01-08-2023, 03:02 PM
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One of those days i’ll take the bumper off and make a template to make my own using gutter guard. I promise to post the template and instructions for free here.
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Old 01-08-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shogunade
I disagree completely. A couple hours messing around with shape, then fine tuning on the CAD, chicken wire, clips and maybe powdercoat, more likely sprayed. $15 landed. They probably stock 50 max for each car they make this for. Shipping is their highest overhead if they don't pass it on to the consumer. But they probably charge for shipping. I didn't check that far. Kudos. A nice revenue stream. But I digress. I'll be buying a set anyway cause like others said, Porsche screwed the pooch on this one.
You miss the point and are looking at the marginal cost of producing the next set. That is very different than the weighted cost which is the relevant facto for profitability. If it is so cheap and easy to make them with chicken wire, why are you buying a set?
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Old 01-08-2023, 05:04 PM
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[QUOTE=F8Driver;18559060]The RGS are quite flexible aluminum and are held with cable ties. The Zunsport are stainless steel and robust. They are held in place by clips that engage the rear surface of the opening's plastic surround plus a screw which attaches them to the triangular reinforcement on the high inner corner of the surround.[/QUOTE]

This is why I went with the RGS. The RGS are more than robust enough to serve the designed purpose of protecting the radiator.
Old 01-08-2023, 05:17 PM
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Thanks for the reminder. I just ordered the full set for my 911T. I have these on my CGTS4.0 and love them.
Old 01-08-2023, 06:23 PM
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Very happy with the RGS grills. They include a little standoff that allows the grill to be installed roughly half an inch behind from the “blade”. Maybe because of that added distance and pushing the grill further back into the fascia, it looks very subtle. My PPF installer put them on while they did the PPF and they said it was a bit of a bear, even with the front bumper off the car. So take that for what it’s worth, but I’m super pleased with the result.
Old 01-08-2023, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew46
You miss the point and are looking at the marginal cost of producing the next set. That is very different than the weighted cost which is the relevant facto for profitability. If it is so cheap and easy to make them with chicken wire, why are you buying a set?
Like I mentioned, you're denoting an expensive R&D cost so your valuing a weighted cost which I'd wager is completely off. I just glanced at the website but they probably make these for 10+ makes. They have the process down. They're not paying sh*t for R&D.

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Originally Posted by Drew46
You miss the point and are looking at the marginal cost of producing the next set. That is very different than the weighted cost which is the relevant facto for profitability. If it is so cheap and easy to make them with chicken wire, why are you buying a set?
Like I mentioned, you're denoting an expensive R&D cost so you're valuing a weighted cost which I'd wager is completely off. I just glanced at the website but they probably make these for 20+ makes. They have the process down. They're not paying sh*t for R&D.

My time.

Plus, I'm pretty sh*tty at making stuff.

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Old 01-09-2023, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Shogunade
Like I mentioned, you're denoting an expensive R&D cost so your valuing a weighted cost which I'd wager is completely off. I just glanced at the website but they probably make these for 10+ makes. They have the process down. They're not paying sh*t for R&D.

My time.

And relax.
Who is not relaxed? Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I am worked up in any way. Debates like this are why we are all participating, no? My responses were polite and respectful - which is more than can be said about yours.

And posting it twice doesn't make it any less inaccurate.
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Old 01-09-2023, 02:27 PM
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Spoke with RGS. They can't support non-GTS model 992s because of the active aero system. Makes install too difficult. I'm stuck with the Zunsport solution that requires drilling for my TTS.
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Old 01-09-2023, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew46
Who is not relaxed? Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I am worked up in any way. Debates like this are why we are all participating, no? My responses were polite and respectful - which is more than can be said about yours.

And posting it twice doesn't make it any less inaccurate.
My bad. It was supposed to edit not double reply. I took out the relax part cause it obviously came off d*ckish
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Originally Posted by Shogunade
My bad. It was supposed to edit not double reply. I took out the relax part cause it obviously came off d*ckish
Fair enough. We all have our moments, me more than most.
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Originally Posted by Drew46
Maybe, but factor in the R&D and design costs, costs of tooling and manufacturing, stocking and overhead costs and then consider the limited market. all things considered, I bet this is not a huge profit margin product for them.
I really doubt it. I strongly doubt any more "research and development" went into this than getting measurements and deciding on a mesh pattern.

RGS sells something similar for $120 USD.

Originally Posted by devsecflops
Spoke with RGS. They can't support non-GTS model 992s because of the active aero system. Makes install too difficult. I'm stuck with the Zunsport solution that requires drilling for my TTS.
I'm not as familiar with the TTS active aero, but on a Carrera the active aero closes off at speed. If you're into it visually that's cool, but I think there would be no functional improvement since at lower speeds a rock is unlikely to cause any damage and at at higher speeds the opening is mostly closed off.

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