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Old 11-27-2022 | 12:14 PM
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Unpopular opinion but do not need this for the 992. S Class yes. 911 no need. Its a small little thing compared to most cars to begin with and perfectly maneuverable
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Old 11-27-2022 | 01:44 PM
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Per prior posts here (and I checked with Porsche press kit) it only reduces turning circle in slow speed maneuvers by .5 meters.
For me, it was an expensive option, and something else to give you a dash warning down the road.
And the lithium battery is definitely a negative. (See posts on this).
I can't say I miss it in any way.

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Old 11-27-2022 | 03:33 PM
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I guess I'm not skilled enough to tell a notable difference when I've driven a RWS car. I had it in my build and reallocated the money to other things like Matrix headlights that actually do nothing.
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Old 11-27-2022 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NYG1121
Unpopular opinion but do not need this for the 992. S Class yes. 911 no need. Its a small little thing compared to most cars to begin with and perfectly maneuverable
I have it on my Taycan and love it. Makes the car a lot easier to handle in tight spaces. For the 911, i don't see much need..
Old 11-27-2022 | 04:41 PM
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Don't second guess it. You will love the option.
Old 11-28-2022 | 06:59 AM
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As Andrew Frankel (one of the best car journalists around) wrote when testing the new 992 T ..

The only option I would choose, and it was fitted to the car I drove, is four-wheel steering, something else you cannot get on a standard Carrera. Because when you feel the front end start to slip and you just lift a little to counter it, instead of the car simply biting back into the corner – which would be fine – it instead swivels about its mid-point and flows back onto line instead, which is delicious. The apex to apex rhythm this naturally establishes on a road such as this is an absolute joy.

…Says it all really.
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Old 11-28-2022 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
As Andrew Frankel (one of the best car journalists around) wrote when testing the new 992 T ..

The only option I would choose, and it was fitted to the car I drove, is four-wheel steering, something else you cannot get on a standard Carrera. Because when you feel the front end start to slip and you just lift a little to counter it, instead of the car simply biting back into the corner – which would be fine – it instead swivels about its mid-point and flows back onto line instead, which is delicious. The apex to apex rhythm this naturally establishes on a road such as this is an absolute joy.

…Says it all really.
Can you link to AF’s review. Huge respect ! Fully agree on RAS and will get it on my 992T
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Old 11-28-2022 | 07:23 AM
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https://www.the-intercooler.com/libr...carrera-t-992/

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Old 11-28-2022 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
https://www.the-intercooler.com/libr...carrera-t-992/

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Unfortunately that article is riddled with errors, for example:
  • "the only things of value a T has that an S lacks as standard are the locking diff and sports exhaust". The S has either PTV+ or PTV as standard. Only the base Carrera doesn't have either.
  • "Remember the S has a considerable amount of additional power, three pedals as standard and the same big wheels and active damping too". Standard transmission on an S is PDK; manual is a no-cost option plus all 992's have active damping (see next point).
  • "You can’t get PASM on a Carrera at all." PASM is standard on all 992's; like others before him he's confusing PASM with sports suspension.
Must say I signed up for this site on the basis of the writers they list but this article is very disappointing. He also tries to say that as a T owner you wouldn't want the extra power of an S, but as a S owner you'd pine after the extra power of a GTS. Really?? I can say as an S owner I don't pine after extra power but I would miss the extra torque a S has over the base.

On the question at hand, I'm very familiar with Angeles Crest and have taken my manual '20 Carrera S up there a couple of times - other than being an S and no RWS mechanically it's essentially the same as the T he tested. Never do I feel that RWS is missed, the apex-to-apex feeling he describes is there regardless. Where I do think it would help is on the track when the front end can push wide, just like 911's of old. But that's at much higher speeds than we should ever be using on the road.
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Old 11-28-2022 | 09:13 AM
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Lightweight battery in the T without RAS; is it the same battery used for the RAS option anyway? I can't find the answer to that.
Old 11-28-2022 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
Lightweight battery in the T without RAS; is it the same battery used for the RAS option anyway? I can't find the answer to that.
Almost certainly yes, right? I don't think there is a lightweight battery other than the lithium option - you have to change the storage material since that's the vast majority of the weight.
Old 11-28-2022 | 10:32 AM
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I had RAS on our previous Cayenne and it is nice for u turns and parking lots as many have mentioned, I thought it felt unnatural in corners. The 911s I’ve test driven with it, it felt much better implemented and I didn’t get that unnatural feeling like I had in the Cayenne. I could take it or leave it if someone is looking for a used 992 and if custom building a car for order I’d personally leave it off. The lithium battery part doesn’t scare me, but it is nice not to have to deal with it. If you track your car a decent amount, I could definitely see someone wanting it and it being a must have option. For the street, I don’t think it is a must have as others have also said, any 911 is plenty easy to do a u turn in or get in and maneuver in/out of parking spaces etc.

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Old 11-28-2022 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by zachr
Almost certainly yes, right? I don't think there is a lightweight battery other than the lithium option - you have to change the storage material since that's the vast majority of the weight.
Which is the point, if you're trying to avoid RAS solely due to having a lithium battery, it doesn't become part of the pros/cons of ordering the RAS option.

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Old 11-28-2022 | 02:16 PM
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RAS is like adding bacon to your burger.

If you've never had it before, you'll never miss it.

But once you've had it, you'll never understand how you got along without it.
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Old 11-28-2022 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
RAS is like adding bacon to your burger.

If you've never had it before, you'll never miss it.

But once you've had it, you'll never understand how you got along without it.
I drove two 992S’s back-to-back on the track and really did not notice much of a difference. My car is tracked infrequently and even then it is more DE or autoX more so than competitive racing. So, I passed on the option especially with all the lithium battery issues reported here. So I had it but I do not miss RAS at all ……and yet I love a good bacon cheeseburger! Haha.
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