Dealer tells me PTS factory is closed due to supply issues.
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Over the past week I've seen several users reporting no PTS for remainder of MY23, mostly in the Carrera T and GT3RS allocation topics. See this quote from the GT3RS section:
So seems to not apply universally, just North American market. Also seems that if you properly locked an order before the stop sale you're still due to get PTS. So not a true factory closure, just no new NA market orders being accepted. I am meeting later today with the dealer who told me I can do PTS on a Feb23 T build last week to get clarification on this.
So seems to not apply universally, just North American market. Also seems that if you properly locked an order before the stop sale you're still due to get PTS. So not a true factory closure, just no new NA market orders being accepted. I am meeting later today with the dealer who told me I can do PTS on a Feb23 T build last week to get clarification on this.
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Productive morning for me. I stopped by the dealer and asked about PTS relaying what other users are saying here. SA went and spoke with a few other people but came back saying they had heard nothing. I ended up putting a deposit on the T allocation they had available with a PTS build while I was there. About an hour after I left I got a call back from the SA who told me right after I left the GM held a meeting with the sales staff informing them that he was told at a meeting over the weekend that PTS is discontinued until MY24, and we would need to change the build I just made so it is not rejected.
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Productive morning for me. I stopped by the dealer and asked about PTS relaying what other users are saying here. SA went and spoke with a few other people but came back saying they had heard nothing. I ended up putting a deposit on the T allocation they had available with a PTS build while I was there. About an hour after I left I got a call back from the SA who told me right after I left the GM held a meeting with the sales staff informing them that he was told at a meeting over the weekend that PTS is discontinued until MY24, and we would need to change the build I just made so it is not rejected.
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Sometimes I feel the internet has ruined car buying, IOW 'too many choices make you unhappy'. It used to be you went to the dealer, picked your options, agreed on a price, paid your money, waited until it showed up, drove it away. Now people spend endless hours obsessing over allocation, configurations, customizations, colors, build slots, supply chain, shipping times, etc. The cynical side of me observes the hours people spend ordering the car often dwarfs the hours spent actually driving car car before its flipped before the 'break-in' miles have been reached. Perhaps the benefits of 'mass customization' have finally jumped-the-shark?
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Sometimes I feel the internet has ruined car buying, IOW 'too many choices make you unhappy'. It used to be you went to the dealer, picked your options, agreed on a price, paid your money, waited until it showed up, drove it away. Now people spend endless hours obsessing over allocation, configurations, customizations, colors, build slots, supply chain, shipping times, etc. The cynical side of me observes the hours people spend ordering the car often dwarfs the hours spent actually driving car car before its flipped before the 'break-in' miles have been reached. Perhaps the benefits of 'mass customization' have finally jumped-the-shark?
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Sometimes I feel the internet has ruined car buying, IOW 'too many choices make you unhappy'. It used to be you went to the dealer, picked your options, agreed on a price, paid your money, waited until it showed up, drove it away. Now people spend endless hours obsessing over allocation, configurations, customizations, colors, build slots, supply chain, shipping times, etc. The cynical side of me observes the hours people spend ordering the car often dwarfs the hours spent actually driving car car before its flipped before the 'break-in' miles have been reached. Perhaps the benefits of 'mass customization' have finally jumped-the-shark?
Any often configured for resale rather than their own enjoyment.
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My dealer also just confirmed to me that PTS is stopped for MY 23. I guess I’m waiting longer now…
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I was told my dealer that there are no more PTS slots for MY23 992s. Which sucks because I finally got an allocation.
Another dealer told me the next window to open up is likely April 2023.
Oddly enough, they said that some other models still have PTS available, so it's clearly a supply chain issue limited to certain factories.
Another dealer told me the next window to open up is likely April 2023.
Oddly enough, they said that some other models still have PTS available, so it's clearly a supply chain issue limited to certain factories.