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Old 11-14-2022, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by adm63
Over the past week I've seen several users reporting no PTS for remainder of MY23, mostly in the Carrera T and GT3RS allocation topics. See this quote from the GT3RS section:



So seems to not apply universally, just North American market. Also seems that if you properly locked an order before the stop sale you're still due to get PTS. So not a true factory closure, just no new NA market orders being accepted. I am meeting later today with the dealer who told me I can do PTS on a Feb23 T build last week to get clarification on this.
let’s us know what you find out from them.
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Originally Posted by HappyHades
let’s us know what you find out from them.
Productive morning for me. I stopped by the dealer and asked about PTS relaying what other users are saying here. SA went and spoke with a few other people but came back saying they had heard nothing. I ended up putting a deposit on the T allocation they had available with a PTS build while I was there. About an hour after I left I got a call back from the SA who told me right after I left the GM held a meeting with the sales staff informing them that he was told at a meeting over the weekend that PTS is discontinued until MY24, and we would need to change the build I just made so it is not rejected.
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Old 11-14-2022, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by adm63
Productive morning for me. I stopped by the dealer and asked about PTS relaying what other users are saying here. SA went and spoke with a few other people but came back saying they had heard nothing. I ended up putting a deposit on the T allocation they had available with a PTS build while I was there. About an hour after I left I got a call back from the SA who told me right after I left the GM held a meeting with the sales staff informing them that he was told at a meeting over the weekend that PTS is discontinued until MY24, and we would need to change the build I just made so it is not rejected.
Thanks for the update. That’s a substantial pause. Let’s hope this means they’re going to increase car production and improve the car supply in the year to come.
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Sometimes I feel the internet has ruined car buying, IOW 'too many choices make you unhappy'. It used to be you went to the dealer, picked your options, agreed on a price, paid your money, waited until it showed up, drove it away. Now people spend endless hours obsessing over allocation, configurations, customizations, colors, build slots, supply chain, shipping times, etc. The cynical side of me observes the hours people spend ordering the car often dwarfs the hours spent actually driving car car before its flipped before the 'break-in' miles have been reached. Perhaps the benefits of 'mass customization' have finally jumped-the-shark?





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Originally Posted by jlegelis
Sometimes I feel the internet has ruined car buying, IOW 'too many choices make you unhappy'. It used to be you went to the dealer, picked your options, agreed on a price, paid your money, waited until it showed up, drove it away. Now people spend endless hours obsessing over allocation, configurations, customizations, colors, build slots, supply chain, shipping times, etc. The cynical side of me observes the hours people spend ordering the car often dwarfs the hours spent actually driving car car before its flipped before the 'break-in' miles have been reached. Perhaps the benefits of 'mass customization' have finally jumped-the-shark?

What is it they say? When you have too many choices, you end up with no choice.
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Disregard

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Paint to sample, more info here

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Originally Posted by jlegelis
Sometimes I feel the internet has ruined car buying, IOW 'too many choices make you unhappy'. It used to be you went to the dealer, picked your options, agreed on a price, paid your money, waited until it showed up, drove it away. Now people spend endless hours obsessing over allocation, configurations, customizations, colors, build slots, supply chain, shipping times, etc. The cynical side of me observes the hours people spend ordering the car often dwarfs the hours spent actually driving car car before its flipped before the 'break-in' miles have been reached. Perhaps the benefits of 'mass customization' have finally jumped-the-shark?


Any often configured for resale rather than their own enjoyment.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
What is it they say? When you have too many choices, you end up with no choice.
No, no they don’t say that. This is like a rich person telling a poor person that money can’t buy happiness. Yes, yes it can.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
What is it they say? When you have too many choices, you end up with no choice.
All I know is that when I had 4 channels on the TV I always had something to watch. Now that there is endless supply of movies and shows I can never seem to find anything to watch…
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Originally Posted by adm63
From last year.
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My dealer also just confirmed to me that PTS is stopped for MY 23. I guess I’m waiting longer now…
Old 11-15-2022, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dixonk
All I know is that when I had 4 channels on the TV I always had something to watch. Now that there is endless supply of movies and shows I can never seem to find anything to watch…
The Costco Effect...

https://www.mairesearch.com/how-much...or-too-little/

SO, WHERE’S THE SWEET SPOT?

The sweet spot in consumer choice isn’t a number, as in a specific number of features, options or varieties. The sweet spot is something carefully curated through insightful research—the kind of research that tells you who your customers are, as well as what they want and need, and what they don’t. That’s how Draeger’s learned the best way to display jams. And that’s one of the reasons Costco is so successful.

According to recent research, Walmart offers more than 100,000 product choices and Kroger about 50,000, Costco has limited choice to just 3,800. But Costco didn’t simply cut down on choices. It learned through careful research first that many consumers want to get in and out of their stores quickly (without pondering a mountain of choices in every aisle), and second which products their customers want most.

That’s been a winning business and marketing model for Costco, with an increasing market share, consistent profit growth and a lower gross margin than Walmart for more than a decade. In fact, Costco customers like the way it does business so much that they’re willing to pay annual membership fees that constitute about 75% of their operating margin.


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Old 11-15-2022, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasonamayes
Order stop from 10/20/2022.
wow, if this is true I lucked out. My PTS went CP8.0 on 10/20
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I was told my dealer that there are no more PTS slots for MY23 992s. Which sucks because I finally got an allocation.

Another dealer told me the next window to open up is likely April 2023.

Oddly enough, they said that some other models still have PTS available, so it's clearly a supply chain issue limited to certain factories.


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