Do you agree with Nick - C2S is ULTIMATE!
10-07-2022, 02:04 AM
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Nick is considered one of the key people to watch to get his thoughts. He backs it up with real practical thoughts with an appreciation for maximizing options for the buck. As soon as one of his videos hits, he gets tons of views so that should count for something. A lot of people are interested in his opinion.
10-07-2022, 02:06 AM
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10-07-2022, 02:51 AM
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Since I have a 992 C2S, of course Nick is right!
10-07-2022, 03:15 AM
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I had a CS manual before my Gt3 touring. CS was a much better driver and actually felt faster because of all the low end. The Gt3 is much more exciting and the handling is another level but after a couple hours can wear on you all the power is 6-9K.. CS has is the one to buy if you just want something that’s fast handles well and doesn’t wear you out. gt3 is the most fun car out of the 47 that I’ve owned over the years. Carl
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10-07-2022, 07:58 AM
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10-07-2022, 08:57 AM
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I have a C2S cab, I would not change it for a Base/4/GTS/Turbo/S. I wish GTS wheels/brakes were available on the S, but the Carrera S wheels are one of my favorite stock designs
The C2S cab not the coupe is the ultimate non-GT# 911, if you want a coupe get a GT#
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The C2S cab not the coupe is the ultimate non-GT# 911, if you want a coupe get a GT#
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10-07-2022, 09:14 AM
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There is a difference between “best” and “best value”. Currently the best value is in the entry model in each of the 911 three different ranges, Carrera, Turbo and GT3. There is not enough performance or aesthetic difference between the base and top version of each range to justify the cost differential. Of course the final and arguably the most important element is our own personal opinion as it’s the only one that matters.
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10-07-2022, 09:20 AM
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I enjoy Nick's videos taken for what they are, but, in my mind, there is no "best" configuration of the 911 any more than there is a best version of the 911 or a best car or a best ice cream flavor or a best pizza.
My completely subjective thoughts on your points:
1. Just the right amount of speed. Too much and you can't enjoy the car since you essentially run out of road.
- People say this all the time and I call total BS. I use launch control regularly and mash the go peddle regularly. For me there is no "too much". That seems to be true for lots of others by the number of folks who are adding the M Engineering tune. I think you said you are considering it, so I guess you also disagree with this point to an extent.
2. Not the 4S since that takes the enjoyment out of slight loss of control
- Personal preference. I live in the NE and enjoy the added usability offered by AWD. I also like the "laziness" of being able to mash and go without worrying about spinning the wheels - or the car.
3. The S has torque vectoring so just the right amount of control
4. Doesn't have all the scoops and spoilers making it look strange driving the car to work etc.
- Again, this is personal preference. Many people buy this car for the optics and visual clues. Case in point: Aerokit.
5. Priced at the right price point.
- Hmmm. It is pretty hard to argue that a $125K is priced at the right price point. Likely, for 99% of people, it is priced too high or is less than they can afford. Very, very few people have a budget exactly at that price point. And which price point are we referring to - the base MSRP of the CS, with $10K in options (which, really is a barely spec'd out car), $20K in options? $35K in options?
My completely subjective thoughts on your points:
1. Just the right amount of speed. Too much and you can't enjoy the car since you essentially run out of road.
- People say this all the time and I call total BS. I use launch control regularly and mash the go peddle regularly. For me there is no "too much". That seems to be true for lots of others by the number of folks who are adding the M Engineering tune. I think you said you are considering it, so I guess you also disagree with this point to an extent.
2. Not the 4S since that takes the enjoyment out of slight loss of control
- Personal preference. I live in the NE and enjoy the added usability offered by AWD. I also like the "laziness" of being able to mash and go without worrying about spinning the wheels - or the car.
3. The S has torque vectoring so just the right amount of control
4. Doesn't have all the scoops and spoilers making it look strange driving the car to work etc.
- Again, this is personal preference. Many people buy this car for the optics and visual clues. Case in point: Aerokit.
5. Priced at the right price point.
- Hmmm. It is pretty hard to argue that a $125K is priced at the right price point. Likely, for 99% of people, it is priced too high or is less than they can afford. Very, very few people have a budget exactly at that price point. And which price point are we referring to - the base MSRP of the CS, with $10K in options (which, really is a barely spec'd out car), $20K in options? $35K in options?
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10-07-2022, 09:39 AM
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For me the C2S was the right choice.
Base-no stick shift, and I wanted the extra HP and torque of the S
GTS-too difficult to get an allocation and not thrilled with less noise insulation
GT3-I like instant throttle response and don't want to have to rev the car to get the response
Turbo-no stick shift!!!
I would have ordered the cabriolet if it had better lines. The coupe is flat out gorgeous!!
Base-no stick shift, and I wanted the extra HP and torque of the S
GTS-too difficult to get an allocation and not thrilled with less noise insulation
GT3-I like instant throttle response and don't want to have to rev the car to get the response
Turbo-no stick shift!!!
I would have ordered the cabriolet if it had better lines. The coupe is flat out gorgeous!!
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10-07-2022, 10:39 AM
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Nick is considered one of the key people to watch to get his thoughts. He backs it up with real practical thoughts with an appreciation for maximizing options for the buck. As soon as one of his videos hits, he gets tons of views so that should count for something. A lot of people are interested in his opinion.
10-07-2022, 10:47 AM
#29
Burning Brakes
Curious what your thoughts are on Nick Murray saying that the C2S is the best configuration you can or should get. He has good rationale but curious whether you agree or are you sticking with your configuration (if you didn't get a C2S).
His points:
1. Just the right amount of speed. Too much and you can't enjoy the car since you essentially run out of road.
2. Not the 4S since that takes the enjoyment out of slight loss of control
3. The S has torque vectoring so just the right amount of control
4. Doesn't have all the scoops and spoilers making it look strange driving the car to work etc.
5. Priced at the right price point.
His points:
1. Just the right amount of speed. Too much and you can't enjoy the car since you essentially run out of road.
2. Not the 4S since that takes the enjoyment out of slight loss of control
3. The S has torque vectoring so just the right amount of control
4. Doesn't have all the scoops and spoilers making it look strange driving the car to work etc.
5. Priced at the right price point.
1. The Carrera (4)S is entirely too fast for the road, and even the base 911 is almost too much car for public roads.
2. Get AWD if and only if you need it.
3. Sure.
4. Entirely subjective (and configurable), as an aerokit devotee.
5. Too expensive, tbh. Even the base 911 is over six figures. There are too many unacceptable things for a six figure car without options like leather dash, at least Bose, comfort access...
10-07-2022, 10:48 AM
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