yrralis1

I estimate at least a year just to rebuild the bridge for the islands. Inland repairs will come sooner but the most destroyed areas wight vanish completely . That is what happened in Andrew . People simply left . It was too much hurt . It will return gradually within a 18 months . The islands will take 2- 5 years . When Andrew hit I stayed in Ft Lauderdale which is an hour away while rebuilding. Its 3 hours away from Ft Myers which is harder but a person could rent here (Miami) and and periodically check to update . With technology and such it might be assailer now than 1992 was . It's a long grueling process . I have done it. Its not for everyone though . Some might quit and leave. Its sad to see so much loss in a flash .

zachr

Worth emphasizing that we're sending military aide: when you see dollar figures, you're seeing the value of equipment being sent, if I understand correctly.

We're getting a lot of bang for our buck with our military aide to Ukraine, too. We're helping embarrass Russia and Putin on a global stage, and learning quite a bit about their modern military capabilities and strategy in the process. All that for a fraction of our annual military spending.

996AE

How much tax money floats your boat to embarrass Putin?

Putin embarrass easily I am sure

You have a dollar to spend

You must feed your family, provide shelter, security and you have nothing left over

Do you not feed your family and send money to your neighbor? Mind you your "neighbor" is not your friend, ally or within 7,000 miles. Do you not feed your family first?

We are sending money we dont have. Inflation is ravishing our poor and lower middle class and the pain hasnt really started. It will be a difficult next few years feeding other family while Americans are paying the price for this insane policy

Embarrass Putin what a joke

PHX

LOL. If the mighty Maryland and your house "on the water" got clocked and you lost your house, you'd be singing quite a different tune about it all.

Short sighted narcissistic behavior, if I've ever seen it. Geez, have a heart and a bit of compassion...wait, no, you'd rather sit on your throne and decide only on what you've "noticed" and "seemed" without any definitive data and proof to back your statement up. The one on home insurance, if you're rereading your post.

I actually take that first point back, I'm sure you'd be just fine, this is Rennlist where everyone has paid cash for their cars and are just super amazing at life and have it all made. I forgot that.

Seriously though if it doesn't affect you and you don't live here, then why are you pontificating in here? Is that all you have to offer? People lost their lives, all they had, and on up to million dollar cars. Karma is a beyotch.

Cheers.

Patton250

I don’t watch the news anymore. It’s mostly propaganda. I read. And yes they are every bit as corrupt if not more corrupt than Russia. Absolutely everyone knows this except for you apparently. This really is the wrong place for this conversation though. this thread is about hurricane Ian

CodyBigdog

This much I am certain of -

If we don’t learn from history, whether it be the 3 major hurricanes to hit Florida in the past 5 years, or even appeasing Putin in his quest for more territorial control (as was done in 2014 with Russian annexation of Crimea)….these lessons will most assuredly repeat themselves again, and again.

996AE

US has the resources to aide Florida

Do you mean ignore the 32T Federal debt and print some more money and forget about the border crisis, housing crisis, worker shortage, doctor shortage, teacher shortage, soon food shortage

Sure, we have unlimited resource and there wont be any consequences the the out of control spending or open borders

Okay

I heard men can have babies and teaching LGBTQ+ abc to our K-3rd graders is good for them

got it

CodyBigdog

You brought it up.

Russia is rife with corruption. Look no further than the Russian Oligarchs. I would love to hear a few example of major Ukrainian corruption? You can PM me if you like. But corruption aside, at least Ukraine doesn’t assassinated political opponents and others deemed enemies of the state. Nor does it invade Severn neighboring countries.

Patton250

what would you like us to learn from hurricanes hitting Florida? They have been hitting Florida for thousands of years. Are you saying we shouldn’t build beach homes? maybe no one should live in Florida? What’s your point?

CodyBigdog

Why would I ignore the federal deficit like Trump did? He added a big bump during his term. But how one views this discussion depends on whether you believe in trickle up, or trickle down economics.

Teacher shortage? That very much is a local/state issue, not federal.

Border crossing? I have mixed opinions on that when I look at houses in my neighborhood getting their roofs done, or lawns cut or houses built….all done by Hispanics, and often, illegals….because they do jobs that most Americans don’t want, for pennies. Point being - it’s a balancing act and it’s not all negative.

Worker shortage? See above.

Food shortage? Not at my supermarket. But shortages we did have 6 months ago, were mainl;y cause from distribution delays.

Patton250

Holy crap man. Do you even have the Internet beyond this forum? Why don’t you just look it up. Yes Russia is corrupt. They are a bunch of freaking gangsters. That’s for sure. All I’m telling you is that the Ukraine has always been freaking corrupt. They’re a damn joke. They have oligarchs also. This conversation is stupid. I feel like I’m talking to an eight year old. I’m out of here.

CodyBigdog

Much like what California did with earthquakes….they made the building codes tougher to withstand large earthquakes. Florida could do a lot more to help reduce (not eliminate) a lot of the damage cause by hurricanes. And yes, reduce the amount of building rigjht along the coast. Many states have similar restrictions. My house is on the water, but its about 75 above water level. Even if I was allowed to build my house right at water level, I would be foolish, and should assume all risk, if I threw common sense to the wind.

CodyBigdog

#1 What’s “stupid” is trying to compare which country is more corrupt than the other. For every example of Ukrainian corruption, I can easily reciprocate with examples of Russian corruption.

#2 Ukrainian and or Russian corruption is not what’s at play here, and you know that. responding to unprovoked aggression from Russia is. Not to mention that Putin’s Russia has a proven track record of eliminating or jailing (like the mob) all dissenters….whether they be in their Country, or in another.

And to use your words, “I feel like I’m talking to an 8 year old”. PM me if you want to compare resumes….academic, or otherwise.

shrimp money

You might as well say you only tolerate Asians because they do a great mani-pedi, and Blacks are only good for watching them play basketball. Your statement above says slave labor is ok because you need someone to do hard labor.



I apologize for derailing this thread. My only point is that as a tax payer, I’d rather my money go to rebuilding Florida, or any coastal town over and over than anywhere outside of our country. We vacation in Florida, people in Florida vacation to other states, the money goes round and round.

CodyBigdog

That would be your misinterpretation of what I said.

I have the highest respect for Asians. The best man at my wedding is Asian. As an engineer, and former owner of a high tech company, I not only went to school with many Asians, but employed quite a few. Smart and hard working…and yes, they were paid well for their skills.

When was the last time you saw a white guy, or a black guy doing a roofing job?? I honestly can’t think of the last time I saw either up on a hot roof making $15/hr. My comment about Hispanics is nothing more than an observation…whom I respect for doing such a hard and potentially dangerous job for peanuts. Strip away all the Hispanics doing housing construction, and I guarantee you new houses would cost 4%-8% more.

I think most Americans would disagree with you, and despite all the political division in this country, supporting Ukraine is i one of the few issues that most of Congress strongly support.

That said, Biden has already pledged X billions for Florida. But ultimately, it is the Florida State legislature that has the final word on helping to insure something of this magnitude doesn’t happen again. There are engineering/structural and legislative measure thast can be put in place for the next time this happens…and it will happen again.;

As Einstein once said, ” Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result”. Maybe Florida can learn from history? But probably not.