Hurricane Ian
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I have a lot of friends in Fort Myers that are in big trouble right now. Direct hit. The storm was so strong that it really messed up people 30, 40 and 50 miles inland. We always expect the barrier islands to get destroyed but never so much damage inland. It’s bad. It’s really bad. I’m so glad it didn’t hit Tampa but at the same time I can’t help but be really moved on what’s happening down in Southwest Florida. Our church will be helping out.
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Worth emphasizing that we're sending military aide: when you see dollar figures, you're seeing the value of equipment being sent, if I understand correctly.
We're getting a lot of bang for our buck with our military aide to Ukraine, too. We're helping embarrass Russia and Putin on a global stage, and learning quite a bit about their modern military capabilities and strategy in the process. All that for a fraction of our annual military spending.
We're getting a lot of bang for our buck with our military aide to Ukraine, too. We're helping embarrass Russia and Putin on a global stage, and learning quite a bit about their modern military capabilities and strategy in the process. All that for a fraction of our annual military spending.
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How much tax money floats your boat to embarrass Putin?
Putin embarrass easily I am sure
You have a dollar to spend
You must feed your family, provide shelter, security and you have nothing left over
Do you not feed your family and send money to your neighbor? Mind you your "neighbor" is not your friend, ally or within 7,000 miles. Do you not feed your family first?
We are sending money we dont have. Inflation is ravishing our poor and lower middle class and the pain hasnt really started. It will be a difficult next few years feeding other family while Americans are paying the price for this insane policy
Embarrass Putin what a joke
Putin embarrass easily I am sure
You have a dollar to spend
You must feed your family, provide shelter, security and you have nothing left over
Do you not feed your family and send money to your neighbor? Mind you your "neighbor" is not your friend, ally or within 7,000 miles. Do you not feed your family first?
We are sending money we dont have. Inflation is ravishing our poor and lower middle class and the pain hasnt really started. It will be a difficult next few years feeding other family while Americans are paying the price for this insane policy
Embarrass Putin what a joke
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Short sighted narcissistic behavior, if I've ever seen it. Geez, have a heart and a bit of compassion...wait, no, you'd rather sit on your throne and decide only on what you've "noticed" and "seemed" without any definitive data and proof to back your statement up. The one on home insurance, if you're rereading your post.
I actually take that first point back, I'm sure you'd be just fine, this is Rennlist where everyone has paid cash for their cars and are just super amazing at life and have it all made. I forgot that.
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Seriously though if it doesn't affect you and you don't live here, then why are you pontificating in here? Is that all you have to offer? People lost their lives, all they had, and on up to million dollar cars. Karma is a beyotch.
Cheers.
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I don’t watch the news anymore. It’s mostly propaganda. I read. And yes they are every bit as corrupt if not more corrupt than Russia. Absolutely everyone knows this except for you apparently. This really is the wrong place for this conversation though. this thread is about hurricane Ian
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This much I am certain of -
If we don’t learn from history, whether it be the 3 major hurricanes to hit Florida in the past 5 years, or even appeasing Putin in his quest for more territorial control (as was done in 2014 with Russian annexation of Crimea)….these lessons will most assuredly repeat themselves again, and again.
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US has the resources to aide Florida
Do you mean ignore the 32T Federal debt and print some more money and forget about the border crisis, housing crisis, worker shortage, doctor shortage, teacher shortage, soon food shortage
Sure, we have unlimited resource and there wont be any consequences the the out of control spending or open borders
Okay
I heard men can have babies and teaching LGBTQ+ abc to our K-3rd graders is good for them
got it
Do you mean ignore the 32T Federal debt and print some more money and forget about the border crisis, housing crisis, worker shortage, doctor shortage, teacher shortage, soon food shortage
Sure, we have unlimited resource and there wont be any consequences the the out of control spending or open borders
Okay
I heard men can have babies and teaching LGBTQ+ abc to our K-3rd graders is good for them
got it
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I don’t watch the news anymore. It’s mostly propaganda. I read. And yes they are every bit as corrupt if not more corrupt than Russia. Absolutely everyone knows this except for you apparently. This really is the wrong place for this conversation though. this thread is about hurricane Ian
You brought it up.
Russia is rife with corruption. Look no further than the Russian Oligarchs. I would love to hear a few example of major Ukrainian corruption? You can PM me if you like. But corruption aside, at least Ukraine doesn’t assassinated political opponents and others deemed enemies of the state. Nor does it invade Severn neighboring countries.
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This much I am certain of -
If we don’t learn from history, whether it be the 3 major hurricanes to hit Florida in the past 5 years, or even appeasing Putin in his quest for more territorial control (as was done in 2014 with Russian annexation of Crimea)….these lessons will most assuredly repeat themselves again, and again.
If we don’t learn from history, whether it be the 3 major hurricanes to hit Florida in the past 5 years, or even appeasing Putin in his quest for more territorial control (as was done in 2014 with Russian annexation of Crimea)….these lessons will most assuredly repeat themselves again, and again.
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US has the resources to aide Florida
Do you mean ignore the 32T Federal debt and print some more money and forget about the border crisis, housing crisis, worker shortage, doctor shortage, teacher shortage, soon food shortage
Sure, we have unlimited resource and there wont be any consequences the the out of control spending or open borders
Okay
I heard men can have babies and teaching LGBTQ+ abc to our K-3rd graders is good for them
got it
Do you mean ignore the 32T Federal debt and print some more money and forget about the border crisis, housing crisis, worker shortage, doctor shortage, teacher shortage, soon food shortage
Sure, we have unlimited resource and there wont be any consequences the the out of control spending or open borders
Okay
I heard men can have babies and teaching LGBTQ+ abc to our K-3rd graders is good for them
got it
Teacher shortage? That very much is a local/state issue, not federal.
Border crossing? I have mixed opinions on that when I look at houses in my neighborhood getting their roofs done, or lawns cut or houses built….all done by Hispanics, and often, illegals….because they do jobs that most Americans don’t want, for pennies. Point being - it’s a balancing act and it’s not all negative.
Worker shortage? See above.
Food shortage? Not at my supermarket. But shortages we did have 6 months ago, were mainl;y cause from distribution delays.
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You brought it up.
Russia is rife with corruption. Look no further than the Russian Oligarchs. I would love to hear a few example of major Ukrainian corruption? You can PM me if you like. But corruption aside, at least Ukraine doesn’t assassinated political opponents and others deemed enemies of the state. Nor does it invade Severn neighboring countries.
Russia is rife with corruption. Look no further than the Russian Oligarchs. I would love to hear a few example of major Ukrainian corruption? You can PM me if you like. But corruption aside, at least Ukraine doesn’t assassinated political opponents and others deemed enemies of the state. Nor does it invade Severn neighboring countries.
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Much like what California did with earthquakes….they made the building codes tougher to withstand large earthquakes. Florida could do a lot more to help reduce (not eliminate) a lot of the damage cause by hurricanes. And yes, reduce the amount of building rigjht along the coast. Many states have similar restrictions. My house is on the water, but its about 75 above water level. Even if I was allowed to build my house right at water level, I would be foolish, and should assume all risk, if I threw common sense to the wind.
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Holy crap man. Do you even have the Internet beyond this forum? Why don’t you just look it up. Yes Russia is corrupt. They are a bunch of freaking gangsters. That’s for sure. All I’m telling you is that the Ukraine has always been freaking corrupt. They’re a damn joke. They have oligarchs also. This conversation is stupid. I feel like I’m talking to an eight year old. I’m out of here.
#2 Ukrainian and or Russian corruption is not what’s at play here, and you know that. responding to unprovoked aggression from Russia is. Not to mention that Putin’s Russia has a proven track record of eliminating or jailing (like the mob) all dissenters….whether they be in their Country, or in another.
And to use your words, “I feel like I’m talking to an 8 year old”. PM me if you want to compare resumes….academic, or otherwise.
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Border crossing? I have mixed opinions on that when I look at houses in my neighborhood getting their roofs done, or lawns cut or houses built….all done by Hispanics, and often, illegals….because they do jobs that most Americans don’t want, for pennies. Point being - it’s a balancing act and it’s not all negative.
I apologize for derailing this thread. My only point is that as a tax payer, I’d rather my money go to rebuilding Florida, or any coastal town over and over than anywhere outside of our country. We vacation in Florida, people in Florida vacation to other states, the money goes round and round.
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That would be your misinterpretation of what I said.
I have the highest respect for Asians. The best man at my wedding is Asian. As an engineer, and former owner of a high tech company, I not only went to school with many Asians, but employed quite a few. Smart and hard working…and yes, they were paid well for their skills.
When was the last time you saw a white guy, or a black guy doing a roofing job?? I honestly can’t think of the last time I saw either up on a hot roof making $15/hr. My comment about Hispanics is nothing more than an observation…whom I respect for doing such a hard and potentially dangerous job for peanuts. Strip away all the Hispanics doing housing construction, and I guarantee you new houses would cost 4%-8% more.
I apologize for derailing this thread. My only point is that as a tax payer, I’d rather my money go to rebuilding Florida, or any coastal town over and over than anywhere outside of our country. We vacation in Florida, people in Florida vacation to other states, the money goes round and round.
That said, Biden has already pledged X billions for Florida. But ultimately, it is the Florida State legislature that has the final word on helping to insure something of this magnitude doesn’t happen again. There are engineering/structural and legislative measure thast can be put in place for the next time this happens…and it will happen again.;
As Einstein once said, ” Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result”. Maybe Florida can learn from history? But probably not.
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