VW CEO on 911 Wait Times
The following users liked this post:
PCA1983 (07-08-2022)
07-08-2022, 09:05 PM
#47
Race Car
07-08-2022, 09:07 PM
#48
Race Car
The Z06, if the wait lists hold up, is sold out for the entire 7+ year model run. Remember that the Corvette is sold differently - a small number of mega-dealers sell a huge percentage of the manufactured cars, the rest of the Chevy dealers in the country get very small quantities. The upside to that is - the mega-dealers almost all sell for MSRP, no ADM. They all have multi-thousand long wait lists.
The following 3 users liked this post by shrimp money:
07-08-2022, 09:37 PM
#49
Rennlist Member
OK, today in the WSJ, a welcome article says chip supply has finally exceeded demand and chip prices are falling big time!
And the US $Dollar is finally almost reaching parity with the EU € with no end in sight for the soaring US $ and the dropping EU €.
It is hightime for Porsche to lower US prices and increase allocations to the USA!
Or Porsche is dumber than those huge stone faces on Easter Island!!
And the US $Dollar is finally almost reaching parity with the EU € with no end in sight for the soaring US $ and the dropping EU €.
It is hightime for Porsche to lower US prices and increase allocations to the USA!
Or Porsche is dumber than those huge stone faces on Easter Island!!
The following users liked this post:
Porsche newb (07-12-2022)
07-09-2022, 12:42 AM
#50
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Agree. Also, the new Corvette Z06 is due to be out nowish. A Corvette is not a Porsche, but I’m certain that a segment of potential 911 buyers could easily be convinced to go that route.
The main reason a 911 is my go to sports car is because it’s got a back seat and all wheel drive. Off the top of my head, the Audi TTRS and Nisan GTR are the only other sports cars that fit that bill.
The main reason a 911 is my go to sports car is because it’s got a back seat and all wheel drive. Off the top of my head, the Audi TTRS and Nisan GTR are the only other sports cars that fit that bill.
However, that's where the similarities end (and begin).
The same people who aspire to own a Vette (or Z06 or ZR1 trim) are not the same folks who aspire to own a 911.
Not making a judgment call on either groups of people, just stating that they are different.
And for those folks who do not purchase these cars as aspirational goals, very few (if any) buyers decide that the 911 is too expensive and then walk directly to their local Chevy dealer. Just. Does. Not. Happen. They go to a Mercedes or Audi dealer, maybe nowadays a Mclaren dealership. But Chevrolet? No.
Likewise, a Vette buyer (who is not an aspirational one) does not walk out of a Chevrolet dealer thinking, "damn, that's just not the car for me," and then walk directly to their local Porsche dealership. More likely destination is a Ford or switch to another offering on the Chevy lot, the Camaro.
Yes, yes, there's going to be cross-sectional buyers, no doubt. But those are few and far between, and really amount to nothing more than a rounding error.
The following 6 users liked this post by ipse dixit:
detansinn (07-09-2022),
M3Inline6 (07-09-2022),
mdrobc1213 (07-12-2022),
Ontheboost (07-12-2022),
SBAD (07-10-2022),
and 1 others liked this post.
07-09-2022, 02:40 AM
#51
Last edited by XrussianX; 07-09-2022 at 02:41 AM.
The following users liked this post:
detansinn (07-09-2022)
07-09-2022, 08:18 AM
#52
Race Car
The following 2 users liked this post by M3Inline6:
shrimp money (07-09-2022),
Smirnoff67 (07-11-2022)
07-09-2022, 08:29 AM
#54
Drifting
Both the Vette and 911 are aspirational purchases for many folks that buy them.
However, that's where the similarities end (and begin).
The same people who aspire to own a Vette (or Z06 or ZR1 trim) are not the same folks who aspire to own a 911.
Not making a judgment call on either groups of people, just stating that they are different.
And for those folks who do not purchase these cars as aspirational goals, very few (if any) buyers decide that the 911 is too expensive and then walk directly to their local Chevy dealer. Just. Does. Not. Happen. They go to a Mercedes or Audi dealer, maybe nowadays a Mclaren dealership. But Chevrolet? No.
Likewise, a Vette buyer (who is not an aspirational one) does not walk out of a Chevrolet dealer thinking, "damn, that's just not the car for me," and then walk directly to their local Porsche dealership. More likely destination is a Ford or switch to another offering on the Chevy lot, the Camaro.
Yes, yes, there's going to be cross-sectional buyers, no doubt. But those are few and far between, and really amount to nothing more than a rounding error.
However, that's where the similarities end (and begin).
The same people who aspire to own a Vette (or Z06 or ZR1 trim) are not the same folks who aspire to own a 911.
Not making a judgment call on either groups of people, just stating that they are different.
And for those folks who do not purchase these cars as aspirational goals, very few (if any) buyers decide that the 911 is too expensive and then walk directly to their local Chevy dealer. Just. Does. Not. Happen. They go to a Mercedes or Audi dealer, maybe nowadays a Mclaren dealership. But Chevrolet? No.
Likewise, a Vette buyer (who is not an aspirational one) does not walk out of a Chevrolet dealer thinking, "damn, that's just not the car for me," and then walk directly to their local Porsche dealership. More likely destination is a Ford or switch to another offering on the Chevy lot, the Camaro.
Yes, yes, there's going to be cross-sectional buyers, no doubt. But those are few and far between, and really amount to nothing more than a rounding error.
The following users liked this post:
mdrobc1213 (07-12-2022)
07-09-2022, 08:41 AM
#55
I know I’m supposed to appreciate the Corvette because of its value and performance. But I don’t.
I don’t like that car. The old ones looked cool, but the ‘vette has been corny for awhile now and the new one is ugly.
I don’t like that car. The old ones looked cool, but the ‘vette has been corny for awhile now and the new one is ugly.
07-09-2022, 08:59 AM
#56
Drifting
Last edited by M3Inline6; 07-09-2022 at 09:01 AM.
The following users liked this post:
jtsrenn (07-09-2022)
07-09-2022, 09:25 AM
#57
Race Car
This is sooooo true. "Lists" are a joke. There are clowns on those lists who have no intentions of ever purchasing a C8 new or used along with another class of goons on the list with attrocious credit scores that could never qualify for a loan and then there are the legions of bitch Karen wives with their men by the nuts shortening the list. The list becomes unrecognizable once the ordering and delivery process begins.
Everyone who is willing and financially capable of aquiring a C8 Z06 will get one as they have with every other generation.
Everyone who is willing and financially capable of aquiring a C8 Z06 will get one as they have with every other generation.
07-09-2022, 10:15 AM
#58
07-09-2022, 11:05 AM
#59
Three Wheelin'
It seems Porsche buyers may be more concerned with looks and image than performance and driving dynamics. I could care less what people think of me because I'm driving an "ugly" car. If it's fast and fun to drive and I can afford it I will consider any car. Like Jeff Gordon said when Chevy aske him what color Z06 he wanted, he said "it doesn't matter, they all look the same from the driver's seat"!
The following users liked this post:
abarthguy (07-18-2022)
07-09-2022, 11:40 AM
#60
It seems Porsche buyers may be more concerned with looks and image than performance and driving dynamics. I could care less what people think of me because I'm driving an "ugly" car. If it's fast and fun to drive and I can afford it I will consider any car. Like Jeff Gordon said when Chevy aske him what color Z06 he wanted, he said "it doesn't matter, they all look the same from the driver's seat"!
The following users liked this post:
dhirm5 (07-09-2022)