Xpel PPF vs Xpel PPF with Ceramic Coating
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Make sure they do it right
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In Massachusetts just did xpel ppf on front and mirrors (about $2k) then drove a few months. last weekend I lightly clayed the non ppf part of the car, I was surprised how gritty (acid rain?) the car felt when going over with a plastic bag on your hand even the ppf. After claying used the bag on the hand again and it would just glue over the paint. Then I polished the whole car (including ppf) with Dr Beasleys #45 polish then applied Avalon King ceramic (about $60.00 it had multiple great ratings 2-3 year life etc..) the whole process took the better part of an afternoon. I'm happy with results. The pdf dealer wanted another $1K for ceramic. If i add my time and the products the dealers cost was probably less then it cost me!...but theres something to be said for getting to know the car and curves. I did this on a Corvette C7 I had for 4 years and granted it was garage kept, the car looked new when I sold it. I'm a believer in ceramics vs. wax
Last edited by kgs365; 04-22-2022 at 09:43 PM.
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Patriot (04-23-2022)
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Rennlist Member
Found a place in Northern Cal called "Ceramic Garage". Walked into their shop and they had a new Tycan, two C8 Vettes, two Rivian trucks, and a few exotics. Very clean place and nice guys. I spoke to Rommel and made an appointment for my new 992. If interested I can fill you in on the finished product and the experience. They have all 5 star google reviews so I am confident from what I witnessed they will be fine.
Anyone else hear or experience of this company?
Anyone else hear or experience of this company?
#19
Instructor
I don't think that there is any reason to PPF the whole car but definitely put a ceramic coating over the whole car. No more waxing or polishing and as said before very easy to wash. My ppf cost $800. I was told that if you are putting on a heavy PPF coating then a detailer should do it. They said any imperfection on the application will show in certain light conditions. My dealer puts it on in a garage with lights shining on the car from all angles which shows any misapplication immediately. He showed me some examples where he had to reapply the coating that couldn't be seen unless the light hit it at the right angle. So be careful if you are doing it yourself. You also get a good warranty if a dealer does it.
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#21
My detailer is recommending STEK dynoshield, which is a PPF with a hydrophobic top layer. Supposedly acts similar to a ceramic coating.
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What PPF pricing are people seeing on cabriolets? I have been quoted $1,800 - $2,000 for the full front but then $6,000+!for the full vehicle. It seems strange for the price to jump 3x when almost 1/2 the car is done on the full front job (considering there is no roof work). Is there really that much more work to do the back half of the vehicle?
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What PPF pricing are people seeing on cabriolets? I have been quoted $1,800 - $2,000 for the full front but then $6,000+!for the full vehicle. It seems strange for the price to jump 3x when almost 1/2 the car is done on the full front job (considering there is no roof work). Is there really that much more work to do the back half of the vehicle?
#24
Race Director
You do not need 4 layers of Ceramic coating. and you do not need top of the line.
The best combo, for the money, is Gtech Serum Light and then a coat of Gtech EXO over the Serum light. I have done Modesta, Cermic pro and others and some of these are getting too expensive and no better than the less expensive ones
The best combo, for the money, is Gtech Serum Light and then a coat of Gtech EXO over the Serum light. I have done Modesta, Cermic pro and others and some of these are getting too expensive and no better than the less expensive ones
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kgs365 (04-23-2022)
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You do not need 4 layers of Ceramic coating. and you do not need top of the line.
The best combo, for the money, is Gtech Serum Light and then a coat of Gtech EXO over the Serum light. I have done Modesta, Cermic pro and others and some of these are getting too expensive and no better than the less expensive ones
The best combo, for the money, is Gtech Serum Light and then a coat of Gtech EXO over the Serum light. I have done Modesta, Cermic pro and others and some of these are getting too expensive and no better than the less expensive ones
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Race Car
Also, if you go on Ceramic Pro’s website, there’s roughly a 50% margin for the shop on applying it.
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Pro
IMHO, overkill. If you insist, do the ceramic coating yourself. Maguire's has a product that is easy to find, easy to apply and it works. Forget the marketing hype from the expensive "exclusive" products that no one has info on how long they work or last.