Xpel PPF vs Xpel PPF with Ceramic Coating
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Xpel PPF vs Xpel PPF with Ceramic Coating
Hi All,
I ran a search in the Rennlist Forums but wasn't able to find quite what I was looking for. I have a 992 GTS coming in sometime next month and planning to have full PPF applied shortly after delivery. In speaking with most shops, they recommend applying PPF and then applying a Ceramic Coating over the PPF. However, some shops are saying that applying PPF by itself is more than fine and adding Ceramic over the top is overkill. Does anybody experience with the differences between the two options and can help to provide some more insight?
Xpel PPF by itself vs Xpel PPF with a ceramic coating on top
Cost difference is about $2500 between the two if that makes a difference
Thanks all!
I ran a search in the Rennlist Forums but wasn't able to find quite what I was looking for. I have a 992 GTS coming in sometime next month and planning to have full PPF applied shortly after delivery. In speaking with most shops, they recommend applying PPF and then applying a Ceramic Coating over the PPF. However, some shops are saying that applying PPF by itself is more than fine and adding Ceramic over the top is overkill. Does anybody experience with the differences between the two options and can help to provide some more insight?
Xpel PPF by itself vs Xpel PPF with a ceramic coating on top
Cost difference is about $2500 between the two if that makes a difference
Thanks all!
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Ceramic gives an additional layer of "protection" and ensures the surface remains hydrophobic longer.
You may also choose PPF with embedded ceramic, like Suntek Reaction, kind of a "2in1". That is what I did.
You may also choose PPF with embedded ceramic, like Suntek Reaction, kind of a "2in1". That is what I did.
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Ah! Thanks for that callout. I didn't realize there was a 2in1 option available! I will ask my installer about it!
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I did PPF, but not full body, the typical front, hood, fenders, mirrors, etc. And then ceramic on the full car and wheels. Ceramic makes it so that when I wash it, the dirt essentially just slides right off.
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The estimates I have received for ceramic alone have been roughly $2500 to apply 5 layer ceramic coating. To apply 2 layers, the estimate was in the range of $1200 for the SF Bay Area. (This would be on top of the PPF cost of roughly 3k for Front only to 7k-8k for Full PPF.)
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The estimates I have received for ceramic alone have been roughly $2500 to apply 5 layer ceramic coating. To apply 2 layers, the estimate was in the range of $1200 for the SF Bay Area. (This would be on top of the PPF cost of roughly 3k for Front only to 7k-8k for Full PPF.)
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I look at it this way after PPF on 4 different cars. PPF is for road shrapnel to protect pair as much as possible. Ceramic is really for ease of cleaning. Consider your PPF as clear coat. Ceramic give you easier cleaning and the film takes cares of the road debris stuff.
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Hi All,
I ran a search in the Rennlist Forums but wasn't able to find quite what I was looking for. I have a 992 GTS coming in sometime next month and planning to have full PPF applied shortly after delivery. In speaking with most shops, they recommend applying PPF and then applying a Ceramic Coating over the PPF. However, some shops are saying that applying PPF by itself is more than fine and adding Ceramic over the top is overkill. Does anybody experience with the differences between the two options and can help to provide some more insight?
Xpel PPF by itself vs Xpel PPF with a ceramic coating on top
Cost difference is about $2500 between the two if that makes a difference
Thanks all!
I ran a search in the Rennlist Forums but wasn't able to find quite what I was looking for. I have a 992 GTS coming in sometime next month and planning to have full PPF applied shortly after delivery. In speaking with most shops, they recommend applying PPF and then applying a Ceramic Coating over the PPF. However, some shops are saying that applying PPF by itself is more than fine and adding Ceramic over the top is overkill. Does anybody experience with the differences between the two options and can help to provide some more insight?
Xpel PPF by itself vs Xpel PPF with a ceramic coating on top
Cost difference is about $2500 between the two if that makes a difference
Thanks all!
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i just got xpel over the whole car. I then bought qtechniq halo and did it myself for $70. My PPF guy doesn’t offer ceramic coating and I really didn’t want to deal with dropping it off at another shop and spending more money for a full coating. Halo was very easy to apply and is very forgiving, which is why I decided to do it myself. I’m not an ocd detailer, but saving the money and hassle of taking it to another place was worth it for me:
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You need to negotiate hard on the pricing.
If your guy can't (or won't) do PPF+Ceramic coating for a lower price (cuz, 2500 alone for ceramic is kind of outrageous), then ask around, and if need be just do the two separately.
As to whether you need ceramic coating after PPF, that's really up to you. PPF is truly a functional add-on. Ceramic coating is simply more for aesthetics and ease of maintenance. If you wash/detail your own car, it might make sense to skp the ceramic coating. If you have someone else clean your car, then ceramic may make more sense.
If your guy can't (or won't) do PPF+Ceramic coating for a lower price (cuz, 2500 alone for ceramic is kind of outrageous), then ask around, and if need be just do the two separately.
As to whether you need ceramic coating after PPF, that's really up to you. PPF is truly a functional add-on. Ceramic coating is simply more for aesthetics and ease of maintenance. If you wash/detail your own car, it might make sense to skp the ceramic coating. If you have someone else clean your car, then ceramic may make more sense.
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You need to negotiate hard on the pricing.
If your guy can't (or won't) do PPF+Ceramic coating for a lower price (cuz, 2500 alone for ceramic is kind of outrageous), then ask around, and if need be just do the two separately.
As to whether you need ceramic coating after PPF, that's really up to you. PPF is truly a functional add-on. Ceramic coating is simply more for aesthetics and ease of maintenance. If you wash/detail your own car, it might make sense to skp the ceramic coating. If you have someone else clean your car, then ceramic may make more sense.
If your guy can't (or won't) do PPF+Ceramic coating for a lower price (cuz, 2500 alone for ceramic is kind of outrageous), then ask around, and if need be just do the two separately.
As to whether you need ceramic coating after PPF, that's really up to you. PPF is truly a functional add-on. Ceramic coating is simply more for aesthetics and ease of maintenance. If you wash/detail your own car, it might make sense to skp the ceramic coating. If you have someone else clean your car, then ceramic may make more sense.
Thanks for the recommendations! I will definitely do that! I am leaning towards PPF and Ceramic! Seems to be the best of both worlds!
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