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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 05:20 PM
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Hell to the no.*

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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 06:45 PM
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You should feel bad for asking this question.
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 09:05 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 09:46 PM
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Beat it like it owes you money. Replace the pads when worn and move on. The Endless MX72 is a nice street pad that lasts longer than stock pads and offers better performance.
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 11:23 PM
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If you're going to drive it like a Prius . . . . you bought the wrong car.
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluehighways
If you're going to drive it like a Prius . . . . you bought the wrong car.

I drive my Prius pretty hard. It’s the only way to go from 0-60 in anything less than near-infinity.

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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by zachr
If you haven't already seen this, you're welcome: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...hard-launches/

You won't hurt the car by driving it too hard on the street. I have multiple friends who work as instructors at the Porsche Experience Center where they have dozens of these cars driven hard daily in a track setting, and the only thing they do is PPF the fronts and replace tires and brakes regularly.
odd that the article is 8 years old with 0 comments.

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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 07:42 AM
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A 911 isn’t a fragile thing. The most abusive thing that you can do to a 911 is not drive it.

Warm up the oil and beat on it all you like. The car will be better for it. If you’ve got a manual transmission, you do want to avoid overrevs.

A properly driven 911 sounds a little different. When I traded my 992C4S in at over 35k miles, the sales manager commented “wow. It sounds like a PEC car”. Yes, because it was driven properly.

These are cars meant to be driven every day and all year round. For Chrissakes, why do you think that Porsche sells roof racks and winter wheel sets for them?
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dudeoverthere
i belive the blue "i'm warm, floor it" light on a GT3 goes out around 135 degree oil temp. so there is that.

it's a racecar. redline is fun.
It is a Porsche 911. The redline is to be taken seriously. DME reports exist for a reason.
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 08:19 AM
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So this is clearly some sort of weird slow pitched softball post - 1 poster OP has not responded. It's not a negative post, so can't call it a troll though. Weird.

I think everyone here agrees on the point of driving these cars hard - running the risk of virtue signaling how hard core we are with our cars.

I will say that the difference in my car now, just after break in and first oil change at 2200 miles, is pretty dramatic compared to when the engine was new. The car revs more freely and the torque is immense. When I really get into the throttle, it's like some silly warp speed "turbo boost" mode on a video game. If I drove conservatively under 4k RPM the whole time I owned it, would the car still perform the same way? My mechanical empathy says "no, it wouldn't"

The older cars (primarily 993) have a reputation for coked valve guides and an argument can be made that not getting the engine properly up to temp and really driving it allows these deposits to build up. Similarly, condensation can build up in the oil, causing it to foul, when the car is driven for short periods without really getting the car up to temp and driving it.

Finally, ECU adaptation to dull driving will make the car feel duller.
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
So this is clearly some sort of weird slow pitched softball post - 1 poster OP has not responded. It's not a negative post, so can't call it a troll though.
I am not sure it needs to be a negative post to qualify as a troll. Single post from a member who joined that day, asks asinine questions and lists their age at 18 but claims to own a 911. Also, by 18, most people know the difference between brake and break. So maybe not a "troll" in the classic sense, but I do think we are all being played.
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tomingrassia
odd that the article is 8 years old with 0 comments.
If you view the Youtube version, there are like 1600 comments.

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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 08:26 PM
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Well if you’re thinking of preserving its originality and keeping it pristine it's not that bad to pour its heart out every once in a while. At Least you get to test it reliability.
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 08:33 PM
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I will say that I get where the OP is coming from.

I don’t know about him, but my 911 is the first high performance sports car I’ve ever owned.

(Other than a Pontiac Grand Prix I drove hard as a teenager) I have only driven regular cars and, of course, had no reason to beat them up.

In the first few months of 992 ownership, there is a sense of disbelief, ie “Wait, I really get to drive it like this? And then I can do it again tomorrow? And the next day? And it won’t blow up?”

There is a learning curve. Again, I don’t know about the OP’s background. But I felt the same way for a while, and I sometimes still do..
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Old Apr 15, 2022 | 09:49 PM
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I've owned a 6MT 2000 BMW M5 and a 2014 Audi S4. I drove and enjoyed every minute with them. Side note, a V8 BMW has an agreeable growl.
When I pick up my C4S, I will patiently wait until after the break-end period ends and have fun with this car too. I'm buying the car to experience why a Porsche is a Porsche.
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