Matrix Headlight Activation - CALL YOUR DEALER & PCNA!
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Matrix Headlight Activation - CALL YOUR DEALER & PCNA!
Notwithstanding that the NHTSA rule change was approved a month ago (2/1/2022), Porsche has not, according to my dealer, responded concerning the possibility or procedure for activating Matrix functionality on USA-market, Matrix-equipped cars.
In fact, my dealer (when asked to contact PCNA) stated that PCNA informed them that Matrix-equipped cars produced prior to the rule change lack the necessary physical capability and cannot have their Matrix functionality activated. (Which I doubt.)
I would urge everyone whose car/cars has Matrix headlights (for which, let’s not forget, one paid a substantial premium) to call their dealer AND PCNA to insist on immediate activation of the Matrix functionality that is now legally permitted.
I have told my dealer that I want their and PCNA’s response in writing, rather than continued delays and runaround. I’ll report back if I make any progress as well as any other response.
Please post your efforts and results!
In fact, my dealer (when asked to contact PCNA) stated that PCNA informed them that Matrix-equipped cars produced prior to the rule change lack the necessary physical capability and cannot have their Matrix functionality activated. (Which I doubt.)
I would urge everyone whose car/cars has Matrix headlights (for which, let’s not forget, one paid a substantial premium) to call their dealer AND PCNA to insist on immediate activation of the Matrix functionality that is now legally permitted.
I have told my dealer that I want their and PCNA’s response in writing, rather than continued delays and runaround. I’ll report back if I make any progress as well as any other response.
Please post your efforts and results!
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Notwithstanding that the NHTSA rule change was approved a month ago (2/1/2022), Porsche has not, according to my dealer, responded concerning the possibility or procedure for activating Matrix functionality on USA-market, Matrix-equipped cars.
In fact, my dealer (when asked to contact PCNA) stated that PCNA informed them that Matrix-equipped cars produced prior to the rule change lack the necessary physical capability and cannot have their Matrix functionality activated. (Which I doubt.)
I would urge everyone whose car/cars has Matrix headlights (for which, let’s not forget, one paid a substantial premium) to call their dealer AND PCNA to insist on immediate activation of the Matrix functionality that is now legally permitted.
I have told my dealer that I want their and PCNA’s response in writing, rather than continued delays and runaround. I’ll report back if I make any progress as well as any other response.
Please post your efforts and results!
In fact, my dealer (when asked to contact PCNA) stated that PCNA informed them that Matrix-equipped cars produced prior to the rule change lack the necessary physical capability and cannot have their Matrix functionality activated. (Which I doubt.)
I would urge everyone whose car/cars has Matrix headlights (for which, let’s not forget, one paid a substantial premium) to call their dealer AND PCNA to insist on immediate activation of the Matrix functionality that is now legally permitted.
I have told my dealer that I want their and PCNA’s response in writing, rather than continued delays and runaround. I’ll report back if I make any progress as well as any other response.
Please post your efforts and results!
Porsche doesn't want to deal with the hassles. The cars are sold and there is nothing to be gained by adding a new variable. I suspect they are busy enough as it is dealing with the Ukraine fallout.
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I’m not impressed with Porsche customer support, and will remember this when I go to get my next car. I had planned to get a Porsche SUV for my wife. Not anymore.
AS far as “lacking the physical capability”…I don’t believe. I did just contact my dealership to see what their official position is, but not optimistic.
AS far as “lacking the physical capability”…I don’t believe. I did just contact my dealership to see what their official position is, but not optimistic.
Last edited by CodyBigdog; Mar 3, 2022 at 10:28 AM.
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I would not be surprised if there are differences required in hardware in the final standard from NHTSA vs the EU standard. Global Automakers commented on this during the rule making period: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/...2018-0090-0182
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I would not be surprised if there are differences required in hardware in the final standard from NHTSA vs the EU standard. Global Automakers commented on this during the rule making period: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/...2018-0090-0182
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I would not be surprised if there are differences required in hardware in the final standard from NHTSA vs the EU standard. Global Automakers commented on this during the rule making period: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/...2018-0090-0182
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This has been discussed to death on this thread from just a couple of weeks ago…
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1289...ctivation.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1289...ctivation.html
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Canada's CMVSS allows the EU/ROW standard, but FMVSS doesn't.
Source: https://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2...ors43-eng.html
UNR123 is the ECE EU/ROW adaptive headlight standard.
Source: https://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2...ors43-eng.html
Instead of being equipped with headlamps in accordance with subsection (1) or (2), as the case may be, passenger cars, three-wheeled vehicles, multi-purpose passenger vehicles, trucks and buses may be equipped with headlamps that conform to United Nations Regulation No. 123, Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Adaptive Front-lighting Systems (AFS) for Motor Vehicles, as amended from time to time.
UNR123 is the ECE EU/ROW adaptive headlight standard.
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I would not be surprised if there are differences required in hardware in the final standard from NHTSA vs the EU standard. Global Automakers commented on this during the rule making period: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/...2018-0090-0182
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This has been discussed to death on this thread from just a couple of weeks ago…
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1289...ctivation.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1289...ctivation.html
that thread focused on the rule change and whether there might be a charge for activation and did not address dealers’ or PCNA’s response to activation requests.
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If they decide to do anything, PCNA is not going to do this as a for free, gratis activation. It’s much more likely that Porsche will make no change that impacts the homologation of the older cars. They would have to re-homologate the 992.1 with Matrix functionality.
It is unlikely that a dealer is will be your path to get this done. If the hardware is there, I imagine that the independents will be the likely path to activation. It’s just like any other forward dating modification.
If you insist on throwing a tantrum with your dealer and make their lives miserable over this, best of luck when it comes to your next allocation.
Personally, I don’t understand the energy around this. You bought the Matrix headlights knowing the functionality did not work in the US. Porsche was very clear on this. Everyone who spent time in the configurator knows this.
It is unlikely that a dealer is will be your path to get this done. If the hardware is there, I imagine that the independents will be the likely path to activation. It’s just like any other forward dating modification.
If you insist on throwing a tantrum with your dealer and make their lives miserable over this, best of luck when it comes to your next allocation.
Personally, I don’t understand the energy around this. You bought the Matrix headlights knowing the functionality did not work in the US. Porsche was very clear on this. Everyone who spent time in the configurator knows this.
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Do not assume the hardware is 100% the same in the US as in other markets. Yes, it seems logical that it would be but Mercedes for example has a (deactivated) matrix system sold in the US with similar disclaimers as Porsche but the hardware is actually different to other markets. You can activate the US version via coding changes but what you end up with is different, mainly around the cornering lights.
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If they decide to do anything, PCNA is not going to do this as a for free, gratis activation. It’s much more likely that Porsche will make no change that impacts the homologation of the older cars. They would have to re-homologate the 992.1 with Matrix functionality.
It is unlikely that a dealer is will be your path to get this done. If the hardware is there, I imagine that the independents will be the likely path to activation. It’s just like any other forward dating modification.
If you insist on throwing a tantrum with your dealer and make their lives miserable over this, best of luck when it comes to your next allocation.
Personally, I don’t understand the energy around this. You bought the Matrix headlights knowing the functionality did not work in the US. Porsche was very clear on this. Everyone who spent time in the configurator knows this.
It is unlikely that a dealer is will be your path to get this done. If the hardware is there, I imagine that the independents will be the likely path to activation. It’s just like any other forward dating modification.
If you insist on throwing a tantrum with your dealer and make their lives miserable over this, best of luck when it comes to your next allocation.
Personally, I don’t understand the energy around this. You bought the Matrix headlights knowing the functionality did not work in the US. Porsche was very clear on this. Everyone who spent time in the configurator knows this.
my belief is that you will be proven wrong.
Last edited by peterdouglas; Mar 3, 2022 at 12:14 PM.
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Notwithstanding that the NHTSA rule change was approved a month ago (2/1/2022), Porsche has not, according to my dealer, responded concerning the possibility or procedure for activating Matrix functionality on USA-market, Matrix-equipped cars.
In fact, my dealer (when asked to contact PCNA) stated that PCNA informed them that Matrix-equipped cars produced prior to the rule change lack the necessary physical capability and cannot have their Matrix functionality activated. (Which I doubt.)
I would urge everyone whose car/cars has Matrix headlights (for which, let’s not forget, one paid a substantial premium) to call their dealer AND PCNA to insist on immediate activation of the Matrix functionality that is now legally permitted.
I have told my dealer that I want their and PCNA’s response in writing, rather than continued delays and runaround. I’ll report back if I make any progress as well as any other response.
Please post your efforts and results!
In fact, my dealer (when asked to contact PCNA) stated that PCNA informed them that Matrix-equipped cars produced prior to the rule change lack the necessary physical capability and cannot have their Matrix functionality activated. (Which I doubt.)
I would urge everyone whose car/cars has Matrix headlights (for which, let’s not forget, one paid a substantial premium) to call their dealer AND PCNA to insist on immediate activation of the Matrix functionality that is now legally permitted.
I have told my dealer that I want their and PCNA’s response in writing, rather than continued delays and runaround. I’ll report back if I make any progress as well as any other response.
Please post your efforts and results!
Last edited by ryandarr1979; Mar 3, 2022 at 09:15 AM.