I have a 992 C2S and I find it has just enough power for my liking.
However I struggle with the less-than-ideal low-RPM torque, and the fact that it takes me getting it above ~2500RPM to feel the car as responsive as I'd like, and I don't want to drop gears just to take over for 30 meters in traffic.
I'm wondering for those of you who tuned their cars, anyone found a significant difference at the lower band, maybe 1500-2500RPM? I understand that the turbos won't spool enough in that range, but maybe some engine management addresses that.

 

Most of the tuners have before and after dyno results on their sites that would show this.

 

What???

 

I've looked at the charts from M-Engineering that the x-axis starts at 2500 RPM.
APR shows starting from 2000 RPM and the gains there seem marginal, so I imagine below 2000 RPM the gains will be even less. That's why I'm asking on these forums about real-life experience.

 

Maybe others don't agree, but hey that's what happens on forums, not everyone has the same opinion. I find the torque delivery sub-2500 RPM to be weak.

 

Do you drive the car in its default “normal” mode or in sport mode? For fuel economy ratings purposes normal pdk up shifts to second very quickly making acceleration feel “laggy”. I always use sport mode just for that very reason.

 

I drive it in both modes, depending on how I feel like. Sometimes if I know my route will require some active engagement, I go for sports mode. If I'm doing a regular commute I keep it in normal mode. Driving during commute on sports mode requires me to constantly be "on top of it", though I just want to relax.

 

The torque at lower rpm is mainly constrained be the thermodynamic capability of the engine system. Below the boost threshold, the engine does not supply sufficient exhaust gases to spool the turbo to provide positive intake pressure. A tune cannot change that.

 

If you want more low end torque than what you have right now it's unlikely you'll ever find a relatively low displacement engine that will meet your needs. You'll need a V8 with larger displacement. Go drive a C7 or C8 Corvette - GOBS of low end torque that makes them fun (for awhile) until you quickly discover all of the other shortcomings. Your expectations for a 992 might be unrealistic. What does "if I know my route will require some active engagement" mean?

 

Maybe you should switch to sport plus mode, where you will spend almost zero time below 2500 RPM no matter what you do

 

If you think 992's are low on torque, you should drive a 991.1 ! There is not going to be a way to get low end on a Porsche with a Boxer 6 engine, the cars are not designed for that and even the 991.2 twin turbo (which is basically the same engine in the 992) was designed to put out more low end than the 991.1, which didn't come alive until 3.800 rpm.

If you want that low end grunt, you need a V8 engine or electric car - you'll want to look at torque ratings, not horsepower. Drive a Panamera or Cayenne with the V8 and see what you think of them - they have plenty of torque.

 

If I know I'll be taking a twisty road that's safe for some spirited driving.

 

You're missing the point. I don't want to raise the revs. I could drive on full manual and keep the car always primed but that's not what I'd call a relaxed drive.

 

What you're saying makes sense. I used to own a V8 in the past and navigating stop-and-go traffic used to be effortless and delightful.

 

Get a C7 Z06. You can take off from a dead stop in 5th gear. A supercharged V8 engine will give you what you are seeking.