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retrojay2345

I have owned a 997 gt3 and a 991.1 gt3. Im talking straight up numbers. 90 percent of people are not tracking these cars so dont start with that

shrimp money

They're just driving to Car shows, let’s be real.

ryandarr1979

Pretty weak C&D test all things considered. Lazy, phoned in, very few words about the experience behind the wheel. Pretty disappointed in this article. I’ve yet to see a decent (read: thorough) test on the Carrera GTS. 1/4 time doesn’t tell me anything. I’d love to see a publication actually run this thing around a track for quantitative purposes against an S, GT3 and a base Turbo. I want to know if this thing justifies it’s $19k premium over a Carrera S.

LSM111

That would be nice. As mentioned by others every review starts with “the GTS is the Goldilocks”

Do I believe it is worth 19k more than an S yea I do. But more thorough tests would be nice.

LSM111

wrong quote.

LSM111

My GTS Build was 165k Turbo S 230k. Not nearly twice as much. 50% more yes.

dhirm5

Turbo/s are non starters for me - I want 3 pedals. But my GTS is 180 or so -- a stone's throw from a Turbo.

aggie57

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aggie57

If so surely you know that straight line numbers are the last thing a GT3 is about.

chance6

I had a 991.1 GTS that had 325 ft-lb of torque, and to me it was juuuust fast enough...just barely. This new one has about +100 more ft-lb of torque w/ basically the same weight. And 50 more hp. It will be a very fast beast.
This new car with the lightweight package is about 250 lb lighter than a Turbo. Much better steering feel. Indeed may be the sweet spot!

manifold danger

My guess is that's coming soon. IIRC, this is how C&D rolls... they'll do the numbers tests, then give a first drive impression article, then a full review.

I may be mixing streams for C&D and R&T, but also I'd guess most rags haven't actually gotten their hands on their own press cars yet. So far EVERYTHING I've seen state-side has been the same CR 7MT with the lightweight package, and the Chalk Targa, driven on the same roads "just outside of Atlanta". I'm sure they'll be rolling in soon when Porsche gets them cars, prob around the same time people start getting their GTS orders delivered. This for now is at least something other than the 6 or 7 YT videos I've been stalking for the past few months...

None of it matters much to me as my mind is pretty made up. New content is just the closest I can get to having it in my driveway though...

22992

Numbers are about what I suspected. Slightly faster than the S 0-60 @ (3.0 C&D, 2.9 Motortrend), Slightly slower than the GT3@ 2.7. Other times follow suit.

What I really want to know is this: If someone would want an S a little quicker, will there be someone out there willing to copy the GTS tune and flash it to an S? And, if that were to happen, what justification would porsche have if they were to void your warranty? After all, it is a factory tune, on the exact same engine. Seems hard to prove a tune as the culprit if it is blessed by Porsche themself, no? This would make a very compelling case for a 117k 911S manual trans, no options (maybe sport package) and a $1500 GTS tune with full factory warranty.

jnkirk1974

To the average consumer, your comments are very true. However, both cars in the hands of a very capable driver would be very different. The GT3 suspension alone makes it vastly superior on track. Again, that’s why the GT3 exists.

I have a 2021 C2S (yes, I understand this topic is about the GT3 and GTS) I drive around town. I regularly track a 991.2 GT3 on track. The C2S is faster out of a slow turn (obviously benefitting from torque numbers), but the GT3 has superior feel and can maintain speed in turns.

If it came down to a drag race, my C2S would likely win in a short distance. If the GT3 has a bit more of a straight, it will likely walk my car.

So, the numbers really do nothing to explain the differences in the cars.

In terms of feel and capability, I will take a previous generation GT3 over the current 992 Carreras.

Both cars have their benefits, but are quite different underneath.

CodyBigdog

Bingo.

Lot of people on here seem to need affirmation that their choice of model, color, options, etc, etc is “best”. Or, it also could be a case of ***** envy? Who knows?

I use not check in regularly to see what people post, and after a while, I realized that little changes on this site, so now I rarely check in….

Nevertheless, for those seeking affirmation, I give you the words of Mick Jaguar,

“You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometime you'll find
You get what you need.”