The issue is FAL is one of the things you never know you will need until you do. Fully agree RAS unless you track or need that extra, forget it. Side skirt are a must not to break the aesthetic line, IMHO of course

siberian

 

Porsche of Towson here in Maryland.

 

Excellent we need folks to have more quality dealers!

siberian

 

I can honestly say that my experience thus far has been excellent. My SP was extremely patient and very knowledgeable. This is my first Porsche and I can't wait to pick her up. I was supposed to get it on Monday, but we got snow and I didnt want to get salt all over it for my first ride.

 

Congrats! Sounds like you will have a lot of good times in that TTS once the weather clears a bit.

 

I think the shortage is easing up because markets have been trending down, especially with even the threat of a rate hike sends high flying stocks that made everyone rich down by 20%.

 

My dealership asked me to sign the paperwork after it left Halifax en route to my dealership in Vancouver so they could get order in their year end books. They gave me the option of signing at delivery too, but I decided to sign it early just in case something funky with the luxury tax. But when you placed your deposit, they should have sent you an order confirmation with all the pricing info.

 

Got the call yesterday for base 911. Was on wait list since Sept. Easy transaction, sent over my build, gave a deposit and dealer kept his word he delivered MSRP. No BS fees on sales order. He mentioned that since I am local and have been customer they don’t want to take advantage of situation. He said they are doing ADM with out of state buyers. Car comes end of May.

 

Again please let us know the name so others can patronize them.

siberian

 

First things first. ANYTHING can happen.

Now that I have said this…….

If you placed a deposit and they change the game on you and demand more money, it would be extremely poor form on their part.
That would be a dealership that is playing the short game and not looking to foster a relationship with you. If they truly care about developing a relationship with you and earning your business in the future, they will honor the original pricing.

I understand that times are quite different now and that the manufacturer will need to adjust pricing for inflation, etc on future orders. Obviously, that cost will be passed onto the dealers. However, dealers should honor pricing with clients with existing orders.

If your dealership doesn't do this, I'd run.

 

The days of (if there ever were any) of a "relationship" with a dealer I think went out with my Plymouth dealer and my 68 Roadrunner. Very few dealers give a sh*t about relationships (beyond lip service of course) and given current shortages even less.

It's thus logical to document and get pricing (including local and state taxes, add ons, prep and all fees), options, estimated delivery etc. in writing to avoid "misunderstandings". And as someone mentioned dealers are not "your buddies" and I don't believe, for the majority of them, "honor" has anything to do with a transaction. That is why when folks have a good or great honest encounter during their purchase please post the name and sales person so that others can also benefit and patronize them.

siberian

 

I completely agree. Unfortunately, it’s a sign of the times.

I’ve purchased from the same place and salesperson for years, so I consider myself fortunate. However, I definitely consider this to be the exception to the rule.

If anybody is in the Dallas-Fort Worth area needs a reference, I’ll certainly be happy to recommend my guys. From sales to service, I have specific names to recommend. I’ll only do this through private messaging as to not spam the message board.

Customer “relationships” are becoming fewer, as more dealerships are purchased by larger auto groups. That’s where most of the problems come from…in my opinion. I miss the really old days of privately owned luxury car dealerships, where relationships drove the business.

 

Actually, I have a same paranoid as what if the dealer at last minute adds ADM. I know plenty of Ford Bronco holders who got hosed with ADM at last minute. Should I added some weird options...lol.

Worst case, I would complain to VW Group management as I have met them a few times to discuss financials. Or put a deposit for Ferrari Roma

 

I don't disagree at all, but I am not sure it is completely one-sided either. Back "in the day" of relationships, the customer would bring their business back to the same vendor time after time if that vendor did a good job and treated them well. They wouldn't jump ship the moment they could get a slightly better price from another vendor. That has been exacerbated by the explosion of available information and the "shrinking" of the world (meaning you don't need to buy local anymore). Assume Dealer A has one allocation available with a $150K MSRP and Mr. X is first in line but will only agree to MSRP. If Mr. Y is willing to pay $160K for that car, shouldn't the dealership sell it to Mr. Y? They are, after all, a business and exist to make money. Now comes in the long term vs short term consideration and the valid argument that Dealer A should "do the right thing" and sell the car to Mr. X at MSRP to honor the "relationship". But that only works if Dealer A truly believes that Mr. X will bring his business back to them on his next purchase even if Dealer B is offering that car for less. Unfortunately, in most (certainly not all) cases, Mr. X will forget about the "relationship" and the fact that Dealer A did not fleece him on the first car and will go buy the second car from Dealer B at the lower price. Mr. X also probably comes on RList to post his better deal and justify the move because Dealer A should have met the lower price because of his relationship with Dealer A.

This really is a chicken and egg situation and I can't say who took the first steps in this cycle to break the "relationship", but the blame likely falls pretty equally on both sides. Its not much different that the change in loyalty between employer and employee that has evolved over the past couple of decades.

I will now step off my soap box full of pessimism.

 

Agree and from "our" end, the "relationship" is influenced and goes beyond the sale. It's what kind of service you get, the level of know how, how you're treated beyond the sale and what choices you have in state vs out of state. If I can get Nokian tires cheaper on the East Coast (including shipping) than buying in State I will buy out of State. I ordered a iMac for my wife in August locally as I wanted to support local business, with no word on delivery (equivalent of no allocations) I cancelled the ordered mid December. Never got my money back and the place looks like it folded. Got her the iMac from Costco in 3 days. So no good deed will remain unpunished.

Of course a dealer is a "going concern" and if he gets a better offer he should sell to that party. What he shouldn't do, and is the subject at hand, is enter into an "agreement" with a customer and then hose him/her in the end with ADM or hidden taxes and fees or just sell it someone else.

There are exceptions but the majority and certainly the last two dealers I bought my Porsche from fall into the "how in the hell did they ever get a dealership"? So please keep posting the names of the kind of dealerships you want to be forking over oodles of cash to.

siberian