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Old 01-12-2022, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew46
Indeed, the numbers do not lie. But they also do not support your argument. I haven't said you were wrong (I think you are but have no facts to prove it), just that you haven't established that you are right. But I don't expect you to be able to see that so I won't waste any more time trying to explain it.
You are right...there were about 1200 less 911s sold in 2020 than in 2013 (2nd year of each generation). Increasing sales are due to SUVs and Taycan numbers in there. No one will know how many 911 Porsche planned to produce in 2020 and 2021.
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Originally Posted by Drew46
Indeed, the numbers do not lie. But they also do not support your argument. I haven't said you were wrong (I think you are but have no facts to prove it), just that you haven't established that you are right. But I don't expect you to be able to see that so I won't waste any more time trying to explain it.
Nice try at a saving face, but unfortunately the numbers tell the tale and your "truther" perspective is a dead end.
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Originally Posted by malba2366
You are right...there were about 1200 less 911s sold in 2020 than in 2013 (2nd year of each generation). Increasing sales are due to SUVs and Taycan numbers in there. No one will know how many 911 Porsche planned to produce in 2020 and 2021.
911 productions numbers vary widely from year to year.

The 992 was not a hot seller for a new model in 2019 compared to the introductory years of the 997, 991 and 991.2 so assuming 2020 sales would have matched the increases seen in the 2nd year of those models is probably a false assumption.



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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
Nice try at a saving face, but unfortunately the numbers tell the tale and your "truther" perspective is a dead end.

Do you even understand the definition of "truther"? Let me help you, its "one who believes that the truth about an important subject or event is being concealed from the public by a powerful conspiracy". Which one of us is the taking the position that we are all being lied to about the chip shortage? I am done responding to your nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
Nice try at a saving face, but unfortunately the numbers tell the tale and your "truther" perspective is a dead end.
So then the whole point you are trying to make with the sales numbers is that because Porsche sold more cars YoY, there was no shortage?

Edit. Rereading the title of the thread, I guess you are... a little short sighted, no?

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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
911 productions numbers vary widely from year to year.

The 992 was not a hot seller for a new model in 2019 compared to the introductory years of the 997, 991 and 991.2 so assuming 2020 sales would have matched the increases seen in the 2nd year of those models is probably a false assumption.


Not following you there. 991 started sales in the US in 2012. 992 started in 2019. 2019 sales were slightly higher than 2012 sales. 997 sales started off higher in 2005, but the deliveries increased in 2006. In both 997 and 991 generation there was a 19% increase in deliveries between the first year on the market and the second year on the market. There was definitely a decrease in 2020 and that makes sense since there was a 3 month shutdown of the factory,.



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