Shortage of 911s? ...sales figures tell the tale.
#31
Three dealers within 25 minutes of me have gotten in five 2022 911s for their inventory. Maybe one of them is a cancelled order but I doubt they all are. So much for “we don’t have any available allocations”
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Carlo_Carrera (01-04-2022)
#32
I hope these 911 sales figures bode well for availability of 992’s in the used market in 18-24 months. I keep toying with the idea of buying a new 911, but why buy a new C4S when (at least prior to Covid) you could get a 2-3 year old Turbo or Turbo S for the same price?
#33
Car markers will adjust to higher demand by building more cars and we'll see an oversupply in the next few years as demand calms down. I believe that both Ford and GM both said today that the bottlenecks (i.e. chip shortage) is easing.
#34
State registration numbers these days are inaccurate because in some states there are tremendous delays in getting any DMV work processed due to COVID.
Porsche's press release says Porsche dealers sold, as in deposited customers' full payments, for 10042 911s in the USA from 1/1/2021 to 12/31/202. These are accurate yearly sales figures.
There is no reason for dealers to pull sales forward to pad the figures or meet sale incentives. There are zero 911s sitting on dealers lots.
Porsche's press release says Porsche dealers sold, as in deposited customers' full payments, for 10042 911s in the USA from 1/1/2021 to 12/31/202. These are accurate yearly sales figures.
There is no reason for dealers to pull sales forward to pad the figures or meet sale incentives. There are zero 911s sitting on dealers lots.
Not arguing the validity of Porsche press release, just saying, state registration is the benchmark in any final analysis. It is the arbiter in any performance dispute between dealer and manufacturer.
#36
The law of small numbers, easy to double off the current sales rate. Let's see how long it takes Tesla for example, to double their sales from this point forward - and they are #1. Each "double" going forward will take an increasingly longer amount of time.
#37
Pretty sure this was meant to elicit some visceral reactions among a 911 Forum, but I’ll bite. Having gone from multiple 911’s then to a Taycan and now back to a 911 I can say my experience is exactly the opposite of what you wrote.
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CanAutM3 (01-06-2022)
#38
Want to bet they have ADP’s on them? Dealers can use their allocations as they see fit. Some are used for stock to maximize ADP.
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State registration numbers are not inaccurate, and the delays are overstated. What does the number of grounded 911 inventory have anything to do with 911 sales at retail? Nothing, zero, nada, zilch. Look, Dealer reported retail sales and state registration data will match, there is always a delay as sales reports from dealer to manufacturer are immediate and there is a delay in registration data to catch up.
Not arguing the validity of Porsche press release, just saying, state registration is the benchmark in any final analysis. It is the arbiter in any performance dispute between dealer and manufacturer.
Not arguing the validity of Porsche press release, just saying, state registration is the benchmark in any final analysis. It is the arbiter in any performance dispute between dealer and manufacturer.
The number of cars Porsche AG says it sold is accurate. It has to be because to fiddle with them would be corporate fraud. A crime.
Registration numbers are just a reaffirmation of what we already know.
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Carlo_Carrera (01-05-2022)
#44
The 911 is a pro athlete vs. Taycan, which is an obese person on novocaine with low stamina - comparatively speaking, of course.