I had actually spec'd PCCB on my original Carrera S build, but scratched them on the GTS. I figure I break even on the cost (~$160k each build), and the bigger brakes from the turbo fitted to the GTS makes up a lot of the difference.

This video is eye-opening though, and touched on a few things I did already know but probably took for granted. I understand the benefit of less unsprung mass, but less rotational inertia in particular is something that maybe didn't factor as much as it should in my thoughts on PCCB pre-video. It's definitely worth a watch.

The cost benefit still just isn't there for me, especially over the upgraded brakes on the GTS. I have to be honest, when I spec'd it on the S build cosmetics certainly weighed in on that; particularly in the size of the front brakes. They're pitifully small on the S. The yellow calipers are subjective, but to me they look terrible on almost any non-grayscale color (and I'd hate them on black because I can't stand the Steelers...)- so I had them spec'd with black calipers which I'm glad Porsche allows as an option.

Also one more thing I'll touch on- throughout the vid he's showing those admittedly ridiculous-looking flat iron rotors as a comparison to the gleaming cross-drilled carbon rotors. I know that Cadillac elected to use those trash rotors but they didn't do it for performance reasons. I just watched the Savagegeese review where they mentioned that specifically, and that since it's a Cadillac they specifically chose the flat iron rotors to reduce NVH. I am also glad that Porsche does just say "eff it" and doesn't compromise with their braking system. All that being said, I think this video draws more of a stark contrast to some admittedly sh*t rotors off the cadillacs; I think the contrast of Porsche steel vs carbon wouldn't be quite as dramatic.

 

I spec’d black calipers as well on my GTS build. The free red doesn’t look good with Shark blue IMO, but looks great with white or chalk.

 

As a guy who ordered PCCBs years ago for his 997.1 S cab I can tell you that with 126,000 miles on the car I am still on the factory installed pads. Rotors look perfect. Dust? What's that?

 

PCCB are certainly better in multiple aspects , the question always is: do you justify the cost ?
for me , answer depends on the cost of the car ..
10 k on a 70 k car is excessive
10 k on 100 k plus car is more doable

 

Race car tech?

Is there an actual racing series that uses CCB?

 

you mean like this?

Got a lot of grief for this, but I love it.... get lots of compliments on it.

 

This is the primary reason I got them..... I've got 21000 miles on it, and still at 85% .. and have had 0 dust... I mean 0..

 

Dust is almost a non-issue with black or dark-colored rims.

I have three Porsches in the garage, the one with the black wheels is - BY FAR - the hardest to keep clean and decent looking.

If I was racing the car, i get it…but for the street, or an occasional track day, I would put my $10-$12K into a power mod, or other mods to the car that I would immediately feel, or hear.

Saving half the weight on brakes is far more important than some minor horsepower mod. It's not HP that hustles you around a track, its less weight and superior braking capability,

 

that statement doesn't apply to us OCD types... trust me. Dust is always an issue...

 

F1

 

Finance and Psych 101 says that argument makes no sense. That’s cognitive dissonance. $10K is worth $10K, period. The only question is whether the benefit to you is worth $10K.

 

I think the best value proposition are PCCB’s on a base 911.

 

Oh man - Absolute true story that just happened between me and my wife...

Me: "Can you believe someone is trying to say 'oh, if my car cost 70k, I wouldn't spend the 10k on PCCB's, but if the car cost 100k then Yes, I'd buy them? What a silly argument? Of course the cost of the car has nothing to do with wether the 10k is worth it - See here? There's a person that totally understands - they point out that Finance and Psych 101 both say that argument makes no sense"

Wife: "Wait - didn't we just get back from setting up your 992 to be paint corrected and ceramic coated?"

Me: "Yes"

Wife: "And the reason you didn't get the 997 paint corrected and ceramic coated was because is was too much given the cost of the car?"

Me: "...yes... yes I did say that... but... err... but... uhm... damn"

She got me.

Somehow, dollar to dollar in my brain the $1,800 spent on a 60k car was too much, but spending the same exact $1,800 on my 992 makes total sense. Go figure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I just sold a base 991.2 C2 with PCCBs. Those brakes felt sublime in every day use. And zero dust in three years of use. Both the winter and summer wheels always looked super clean, inside and out. PCCBs have spoiled me for any other type of brake.

PS: I have over 500 miles on a 2021 Macan Turbo with PSCBs. While they don't feel as terrific as the 991.2 C2's PCCBs, those PSCBs are pretty nice, too.

God bless you,
Tom

 

I have a 4 GTS on order and opted for the PCCBs after reading articles and watching various videos (including the above). After talking to my SA he confirmed you can swap in iron rotors but they will wear more quickly due to the control module/ ABS settings. The fact that my ownership of the car will be for less than the life of the carbon ceramic rotors makes me look at it as a one-time expense.