The link below is Porsche's official Q3 sales report. If these numbers are a lie Porsche AG and the VW Group as public companies would be liable as a finical crime and fined tens, if not hundreds, of millions. There is no shortage of 911s to this point. I think your local sales folks are the ones stretching the truth.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2...021-25948.html

 

It’s weird how it’s a tough pill to swallow for something you’ll actually enjoy. Look at it like a really nice 1 week cruise in a huge suite.

The feeling of excitement right when you walk on to the ship, is the feeling you’ll have each time you get into the car..

If you can’t imagine it that way, I’ve been up $160k on a stock in two months, and down $112k on a stock in a month. Sometimes I say to myself, could have bought a brand new 911 and crashed it into a wall for the paper loss I just had.

 

This...the numbers don't lie. As mentioned, it could really be that all of their allocations are Priority 1 (pre ordered cars) and it "feels" like there are no allocations as there is never inventory to sell.

 

well said.

 

Hey bud, I didn’t claim Porsche was “lying” and I clearly qualified my original post with “anecdotal” and “could 100% be possible” that they feel like they are getting less when they are in fact not getting less. I was asking about the source because I was “curious” to learn more, especially if it’s new vs new and CPO, given the, again, “anecdotal” data I was told. I don’t deny facts, but never hurts to ask for a source to review for yourself, right?

Maybe re-read my post again? Because I generally like your posts I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you skim read my post and thought I was some bonehead who thought Porsche was lying.

 

100% agree that, given the published numbers, it is likely a “feeling” like I noted in my previous post.

 

I wasn't trying to be confrontational, simply providing complete information.

 

Would add that, if one studies PCNA's own releases from '19 vs the latest 3Q21 release, can realize that 911 units sold to US dealers are +6% if compare F9M21 vs F9M19

Suggests less of a supply issue but rather elevated demand outstripping mildly elevated supply vs pre-Covid era, thus lean inventories and minimal/no discounts vs MSRP....and historically strong used car prices

Today, EU's most valuable producer of luxury goods, LVMH, reported their 3Q21 revenues: IIRC +11% in F9M21 vs F9M19 (organically compared, adjusting out acquisitions and FX), and founder/CEO didn't even mention any supply chain issues holding back his business performance....solid revenue growth achieved despite still quite limited EU tourism

 

No doubt it's because LVMH had a good stockpile of semiconductor chips before the pandemic hit. Oh wait ...

 

PCA (Porsche Club of America) is the source. Porsche does not count resales in their production/sales numbers.

 

The biggest fights in here seem to revolve around being able to sell you car down the road.

 

Amusing to see the vast majority of people not accepting inflation is here to stay, at the same time traditional logic says cars should (should, but not necessarily would) depreciate

My 2cents : Doubtful that selling your car now is the best choice, just looking at the used car market as a whole and 992 values. Some dealerships are selling used 220k msrp turbos at 300k. It is entirely possible to predict the effects of unrelenting inflation, I did it when buying my car, I probably mentioned it a while ago but if average ol me predicted where car prices were going last year, don't you guys think megacap corporations would have staff members capable of seeing that as well

 

I meant more that if you don't plan to keep it forever, it starts an argument.

 

Ah very true good point.

also in case anyone is wondering I did a quick check and the turbo s at +80k over msrp has sold within a few days