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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 03:22 PM
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Default Base Carrera order. Any opinions?

Like others I have had many fun hours on the configurator!

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNJZ1JI2

Some of the choices are personal as they should be. Most would go for a glass sunroof but I went metal as I want the whole interior liner to be alcantara (racetex).

Everyone also says that the sports exhaust is necessary but with the PPF I don't think it is worth it. I would love adaptive cruise but would rarely use it and Porsche puts a carbuncle of a radar detector on the front grille. Eughh!

I thought about not having sport chrono, but the wheel gives instantly adjustability and I feel the 911 isn't the full whack without it. Porsche understate the performance figures too, Joe Achilles die 0-60 in 3.6s I think. Sport Chrono should take another 0.2s off that! Ballistic!
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My car has almost no options and I have now covered 23,000 miles in it. All road use.
Being objective-
1) It is flipping quick, with draggy indicating 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. We are talking about a so called "base" Carrera 2.
I hardly ever get to use full throttle I would not pay £10k for an S for more power I would never use it as I dont already use what I already have.
2) The 19/20 inch wheels are enormous. The ride is very firm standard and the car generates over 1.5g in the corners. These huge wheels also generate large road noise from the rear arches. Wider wheels would be worse.
3) The standard square tipped exhaust is very loud! Flippin' loud. I do not want a louder car. Every policeman in a 1 mile radius from me can hear it when I boot it, so I definitely 100% do not want a louder exhaust.
4)The standard interior with Sportex is very nice indeed. The pov. spec 4 way sport seats are lovely and dont contain as many heavy wasteful electric motors as the "posh" seats.
5)I do not have Sports Chrono and do not want it either. What is the point of adding buttons to get extra performance? Do you get extra performance, maybe on the launch. I dont think I have ever had to stoop as low as to press a "Sports" button. If you are tootling along and you boot it, the car goes into "Sports" anyway for a few seconds. If you dont use the revs it it then flips back to just chugging along. Perfect.
6) I have never felt the need for a mechanical LSD. It just hooks up and goes. I suppose if you were an inexperienced or young driver you might need it, but really it is fine with just the electronic control.

As an aside, last week I spent a few hours driving a Ferrari Roma and a Portofino, both with north of 600 bhp. The cheapest Ferrari was £90,000 more that my C2. Quite honestly I did not feel much more of a boot in the back when I floored it. Its all about torque not so much bhp. The interior was nice but I felt the 911 held up pretty well. I also saw Harrys video a few days ago of his drive down to Cornwall in Roma. 220 odd miles of a tank going moderately to slow. I never get less than 400 miles in the 911 and sometimes get I 34 mpg. These things matter if you use your car all the time an its not just a weekend toy.

I was sort of on the fence before I bought the 992 but now having used it just about every day for nearly 2 years I am sure it is the best car I have ever owned and there is nothing out their that can match its range of abilities, even at twice the price.


Old Oct 5, 2021 | 03:33 PM
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Looks like a thoughtful, well sorted build to me. I agree on the sport exhaust. I am very disappointed with my PSE. Can barely tell the difference and I don't think I have particulate filters on mine. However, I do like the quad round tailpipes so if I were to re-order, I'd probably get those (no extra charge on my S, but a bit more for your base). I agree sport chrono mode dial is a nice convenience and 911s seem incomplete without that sport chrono dial on the dash.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 03:41 PM
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I have a Base with Chrono, metal sunroof and PSE. I can hear a big difference in the exhaust when flipping the dial to Sport, which is the first thing I do after starting the car.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by por356
I have a Base with Chrono, metal sunroof and PSE. I can hear a big difference in the exhaust when flipping the dial to Sport, which is the first thing I do after starting the car.
Apparently the non-PSE cars also have a valve that opens on selection of sport mode, changing the sound of the exhaust.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 04:21 PM
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I didn’t have PSE on my 991.1, but do have it on my 992. It’s worth getting, even if it’s not quite loud enough for some. I plan to augment with sport cats.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 04:31 PM
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Very solid config, and a great price to boot!

PSE opinions are pretty split. 50% say it's a must-have, while the other 50% say they can't tell the difference. Get what makes you feel better.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ibopm
Very solid config, and a great price to boot!

PSE opinions are pretty split. 50% say it's a must-have, while the other 50% say they can't tell the difference. Get what makes you feel better.

Unless i'm mistaken, that's 136k for a base...
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Extended range fuel tank?
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Nice build! Of course I have a few comments for your consideration. I would choose one of the larger 20/21" wheels for a more dramatic look and somewhat more harshness on really bad roads. Try the Sport Seats plus as they offer more bolstering for "spirited" driving. I chose the glass sunroof because it brought so much more light into the interior. The roof fabric is pricey and not needed as well. I would suggest LCA to help warn of cars in your blind spots. Also Homelink is nice if you have a powered garage, and entry & drive just for the convenience. Have you received an allocation? I would be remiss if I did not tell you that if your budget can stretch for an S you will also get larger brakes and the option for the awesome manual transmission. I would skip the wood and a few other items to make that work if possible. It was interesting to compare how the US options are differently presented. For example our bas cars do not have full leather as do the UK. Also the Premium package with some of the electronic goodies bundled for a slight discount is missing.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster
Nice build! Of course I have a few comments for your consideration. I would choose one of the larger 20/21" wheels for a more dramatic look and somewhat more harshness on really bad roads. Try the Sport Seats plus as they offer more bolstering for "spirited" driving. I chose the glass sunroof because it brought so much more light into the interior. The roof fabric is pricey and not needed as well. I would suggest LCA to help warn of cars in your blind spots. Also Homelink is nice if you have a powered garage, and entry & drive just for the convenience. Have you received an allocation? I would be remiss if I did not tell you that if your budget can stretch for an S you will also get larger brakes and the option for the awesome manual transmission. I would skip the wood and a few other items to make that work if possible. It was interesting to compare how the US options are differently presented. For example our bas cars do not have full leather as do the UK. Also the Premium package with some of the electronic goodies bundled for a slight discount is missing.
Interesting how we differ. I have no interest whatsoever in any of the things you would choose. I am deliberately choosing the higher profile tyres due to the condition of our roads. I would otherwise specify the Carrera Classic wheels. Considered the plus seats but prefer the cleaner look of the standard. The racetex is a must for me and I'm not a fan of the glass roof. I like the cocoon feeling of the metal and if I want light and air the roof will be open! I love the wood because of the retro look it gives with the truffle leather.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TR772
Unless i'm mistaken, that's 136k for a base...
Yip but all our taxes are included! You can't compare UK and US prices!
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Interesting how we differ. I have no interest whatsoever in any of the things you would choose. I am deliberately choosing the higher profile tyres due to the condition of our roads. I would otherwise specify the Carrera Classic wheels. Considered the plus seats but prefer the cleaner look of the standard. The racetex is a must for me and I'm not a fan of the glass roof. I like the cocoon feeling of the metal and if I want light and air the roof will be open! I love the wood because of the retro look it gives with the truffle leather.
Highlighted denotes agreement with me. As far as moving up to an "S", unless you are going to track the car, I have found the power is more than you'll need for the street.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 05:27 PM
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I think your build is nice. Based on your comments, it seems you have thought through it pretty well. I have a base C2 that is fairly loaded. You might think about the extended range fuel tank, which I really appreciate given the lower cost of the option. In my opinion, the racetex headliner isn’t much different in appearance to the base material (both are black) and hence not worth the upcharge to me. I do like the gt sport wheel. I don’t have PSE and I think it is fine without, especially given the cost. You do still have valves and it is louder in sport as a result. If roads are bad, a strong case can be made for having them, but I think the classics really look great on some colors, including AG. Enjoy!
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 05:35 PM
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I think the larger fuel tank is standard in the UK as there is no option. The racetex with Truffle is brown and not black! I dislike the standard headliner intensely! The Classics are gorgeous. I think though if you specify the 20/21 with the base, you lose some of the essence of the base car!

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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
I think the larger fuel tank is standard in the UK as there is no option. The racetex with Truffle is brown and not black! I dislike the standard headliner intensely! The Classics are gorgeous. I think though if you specify the 20/21 with the base, you lose some of the essence of the base car!
I can fully understand why you got the headliner given that it is brown. Good deal.
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