View Poll Results: Which direction do you wish Porsche went with 992 GTS?
Keep old formula. Optioned up S, power bump, and pricing discount
17
17.71%
Differentiate GTS, but with different engine like rest of GTS line-up
49
51.04%
Happy with direction they went. Differentiate GTS with non-engine upgrades not available on an S
30
31.25%
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GTS Differentiation
#1
GTS Differentiation
A clear trend across the Porsche line is to further differentiate the GTS models. Making it more than just all the sport options + power bump with a discount over an S
Outside the 911, this has meant different engines than S models. However, for the 992 the differentiation is non-engine elements. Helper springs, larger brakes, rear-sear delete options, etc.
Like rest of the GTS line, the 911 GTS is no longer a optioned out S + power bump. Pricing also reflects that, with GTS no longer being a discount vs similarly-equipped S.
My question is are people happy with this. Do you wish they kept the old formula? Or wish the differentiation was the engine? Or happy with non-engine changes?
Outside the 911, this has meant different engines than S models. However, for the 992 the differentiation is non-engine elements. Helper springs, larger brakes, rear-sear delete options, etc.
Like rest of the GTS line, the 911 GTS is no longer a optioned out S + power bump. Pricing also reflects that, with GTS no longer being a discount vs similarly-equipped S.
My question is are people happy with this. Do you wish they kept the old formula? Or wish the differentiation was the engine? Or happy with non-engine changes?
Last edited by TheStanman; 09-26-2021 at 08:48 AM.
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PorscheGTSFan (09-26-2021)
#2
For the 911, it’s really not a change in the formula at all. It’s still cheaper (at least on the sticker) to get a Carrera GTS if you’re doing the same options on an S, plus you get more warranted horsepower and bigger brakes. GTS allocations were always harder to come by.
I do think that the 6-cyl 718 GTS got the fan fiction going and skewed expectations.Truth be told, that car exists, because the 4 cyl sold poorly in the US. Porsche has no such issue with the 992.
I do think that the 6-cyl 718 GTS got the fan fiction going and skewed expectations.Truth be told, that car exists, because the 4 cyl sold poorly in the US. Porsche has no such issue with the 992.
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3rdpedal (10-04-2021)
#3
Entered in my 2021 C2S Cab spec (all performance options besides PDCC and PCCB) and the GTS is $14,000 more ($176k vs $162k). Granted for that you get more power, turbo brakes, and center locks. But no where near the value proposition it was before.
For example, if you can even find a new Macan GTS, it’s only $3,000 more than a Macan S both loaded up. That would be worth it if you could find one without an ADM.
For example, if you can even find a new Macan GTS, it’s only $3,000 more than a Macan S both loaded up. That would be worth it if you could find one without an ADM.
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#4
10k delta between my S and GTS build. I’m not interested in center locks, buckets, or an alcantara interior. Like the idea of the hp bump, shorter shifter and better brakes, but doubt any will be noticeable on the street.
plan on sticking with an S.
plan on sticking with an S.
#5
A clear trend across the Porsche line is to further differentiate the GTS models. Making it more than just all the sport options + power bump with a discount over an S
Outside the 911, this has meant different engines than S models. However, for the 992 the differentiation is non-engine elements. Helper springs, larger brakes, rear-sear delete options, etc.
Like rest of the GTS line, the 911 GTS is no longer a optioned out S + power bump. Pricing also reflects that, with GTS no longer being a discount vs similarly-equipped S.
My question is are people happy with this. Do you wish they kept the old formula? Or wish the differentiation was the engine? Or happy with non-engine changes?
Outside the 911, this has meant different engines than S models. However, for the 992 the differentiation is non-engine elements. Helper springs, larger brakes, rear-sear delete options, etc.
Like rest of the GTS line, the 911 GTS is no longer a optioned out S + power bump. Pricing also reflects that, with GTS no longer being a discount vs similarly-equipped S.
My question is are people happy with this. Do you wish they kept the old formula? Or wish the differentiation was the engine? Or happy with non-engine changes?
So much of it is wrong, or just doesn't make sense.
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AlterZgo (09-26-2021)
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#9
Well, no manual transmission, but you are describing a GT2 RS otherwise? Porsche charges big bucks for those as well
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Yeah, but it's not as if an S is lacking in any of those areas. The biggest + I see for a GTS is resale, but again at the moment that's not exactly an issue.
#13
Agreed. The resale argument is undermined by the ADM that people are paying for a new GTS and the demand for all of these cars.
#14
By that regard, its not like the C2 is lacking in any of those areas, so why get the S? You drew a distinction between exterior options and performance options. Its actually easier to spec most of the exterior options (other than wheels) of the GTS than it is the performance options (brakes, suspension and hp).
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By that regard, its not like the C2 is lacking in any of those areas, so why get the S? You drew a distinction between exterior options and performance options. Its actually easier to spec most of the exterior options (other than wheels) of the GTS than it is the performance options (brakes, suspension and hp).
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SBAD (09-28-2021)