Hi Folks, can any owners confirm this?

Burnouts (rev high, dump clutch, smoke tires) are impossible in the 992 911 S Manual?
Perhaps the GT3 or GTS manuals are more lenient, and allow a burnout?

Smoking Tire says no burnouts in a 992 manual:

 

The 992 limits the revving the engine past 3,500 RPM. Not sure at the rev limit it would be possible to burnout.

 

i've seen this as well and it is apparently the case. i'm irrationally unhappy about this. i want the option to dump the clutch and burn some tires.

 

911 MT's have never launched well.too much rear weight bias,always wheel hop and hard on the power train. Had a 996 GT2 tried launching and the wheel hop was awful. My first 911 was a 87 tried a launch and smoked the clutch. PDKs have launching down by balancing clutch slip/wheel spin and torque/rpm ..cant do that with the manual, they limit RPM to save drive train warranty claims. .
Did a lot of burnouts in HS with my $150- 56 Pontiac it had 3-two barrels and three on the tree. I could replace the clutch in less than 2hours @ ($35 each) they lasted about a month, burnouts are hard on a car!

Haven't replaced a clutch since, 41 MT cars over the last 56 years, lesson learned.. carl

 

that makes sense, actually; with so much weight in the rear, the tires stick *hard*, and breaking them loose and spinning would be difficult.

 

This irritates the hell out of me. I can't tell you how irritated I was when I got my 2020 C63s past breakin. I went to play w/ some revs in neutral and record some audio clips,.... And couldn't rev past 3.5-4k.

Major letdown.

 

3500 rpm can't be optimal for a race start.

 

Exactly where I'm coming from. I'm not talking about max efficiency for launch times. I'm looking for control and 'ownership' of the vehicle's operation. And the very rare desire to hoon a bit.

 

Modern manuals with all of these aids don’t actually give you that “ownership”, if that’s the experience that you’re looking for.

 

My dad's 1974 Pantera could burnout, but the backend also started sliding sideways before the thing caught and took off. A lot of power, not much weight.

 

I remember coming from BMW to Porsche and feeling that my F80 M3 was SO much more violent. I remember telling my dealer how boring my 911 was over the F80 M3 in regards to nitro circus driving style. I will never forgot the service managers face.

His face dropped. He looked at my crooked and said... "you dont win when you spin. Porsche does not spin. It wins!" lol.

 

Curious if the 991.2 and 992 PDK GT3's retain clutch kick functionality. If so, and if the new manuals are nerfed so hard, then my internal case for a manual is further diminished.


For those who might not have known:

 

One more, too fun. I don't see why manuals shouldn't be able to do this, if the PDK's are allowed.

If P is afraid of warranty claims due to excessive wear b/c of axle hopping - due to too-low-rpm clutch dumps,... then perhaps they should implement an rpm FLOOR prior to allowing clutch dump - like,... reaching 5.5k rpm UNLOCKS clutch dump

 

He said “PASM off”.

Did he say that by mistake and then turn off PSM or did he really turn off PASM?

 

They removed clutch kick and pdk gear kick down (pedal WOT, in 7th, pull downshift and it would drop to lowest gear before redline. slingshot) on the 991.2. So if you want to go from 7th to 3rd real quick you had to hit the lever 4 times or slap it into full auto mode. It was gay.