New infotainment system 6.0
06-21-2021, 03:38 PM
#106
Rennlist Member
As to HUD...I’ve mentioned on many different threads, that Porsche needs to have heads up. Everyone that I’ve met that has it, absolutely loves it. Is it a deal breaker not to have HUD? Absolutely NOT. When Porsche re-did the interior for the 992, I think that was when they should have done it...logically and financially speaking. I also have a M4, and BMW has had it for quite some time. IMO, for a “driver’s car”, HUD is not a superfluous option. It definitely helps the driver keep their attention, their focus on the road....where it should be. As far as the other Tesla none sense of being able, or not, to play video games on the PCM...anyone that believes that is important, for a sports car like the 992, has got to be kidding. They clearly bought the wrong car if that is a priority for them.
06-21-2021, 03:47 PM
#107
Has there been any official line as to why no HUD? Or any insider knowledge? Love it on my BMW.
People forget that there are often three driving forces that ultimately help shape the final, automotive product: (1) Finance/cost; (2) Manufacturing and (3) Engineering/technology. Having owned (CEO) my own high tech company, I know that while the “vision” of the company usually flowed from me, that vision often got derailed by practical matters, such as scheduling, cost and engineering/physics. I was told that things I wanted done were either too expensive, take too long to develop or beyond our capabilities (engineering or manufacturing wise). We don’t always get what we want, and life is a series of compromises.
Last edited by CodyBigdog; 06-21-2021 at 04:01 PM.
06-21-2021, 03:49 PM
#108
Ugh. Seriously why can’t we hold opinions and yet have healthy debates? Then agree to disagree or better yet learn from new information? Not a fan of having to be right. This thread just went downhill. I was really enjoying reading very informative and enlightening perspectives. I really wish we can find a way to make forums better.
06-21-2021, 04:11 PM
#109
Rennlist Member
It’s all cool. No problem.
Not that I have heard or read about. I don’t think it could be a technology delay, since the technology is pretty mature. Cost? When has Porsche ever flinched when it comes to doing anything that would increase the cost...they would just pass it on to the consumer, and we would lap it up. My thoughts on this are...putting in a HUD takes up a fair amount of room into the dash. With Porsche’s 5 screens, perhaps there just wasn’t the room? I suspect if you looked below the dash, it’s pretty busy back there, already? Anyway, that’s only a guess? maybe they are saving it for the next upgrade release? Car manufacturers love to spread out/stagger the upgrades into the outlying years. Case in point, my 2016 M4 does not have all wheel drive. BMW recently released the M4 with all wheel drive. Since I use my M4 as my go to, around town regular car, used in all kinds of adverse weather...all wheel would have been nice to have. Now it’s available. Marketing ploy, or technology delayed option?? Who knows. But it is an incentive for me to (maybe) upgrade to the new M4?
People forget that there are often three driving forces that ultimately help shape the final, automotive product: (1) Finance/cost; (2) Manufacturing and (3) Engineering/technology. Having owned (CEO) my own high tech company, I know that while the “vision” of the company usually flowed from me, that vision often got derailed by practical matters, such as scheduling, cost and engineering/physics. I was told that things I wanted done were either too expensive, take too long to develop or beyond our capabilities (engineering or manufacturing wise). We don’t always get what we want, and life is a series of compromises.
Not that I have heard or read about. I don’t think it could be a technology delay, since the technology is pretty mature. Cost? When has Porsche ever flinched when it comes to doing anything that would increase the cost...they would just pass it on to the consumer, and we would lap it up. My thoughts on this are...putting in a HUD takes up a fair amount of room into the dash. With Porsche’s 5 screens, perhaps there just wasn’t the room? I suspect if you looked below the dash, it’s pretty busy back there, already? Anyway, that’s only a guess? maybe they are saving it for the next upgrade release? Car manufacturers love to spread out/stagger the upgrades into the outlying years. Case in point, my 2016 M4 does not have all wheel drive. BMW recently released the M4 with all wheel drive. Since I use my M4 as my go to, around town regular car, used in all kinds of adverse weather...all wheel would have been nice to have. Now it’s available. Marketing ploy, or technology delayed option?? Who knows. But it is an incentive for me to (maybe) upgrade to the new M4?
People forget that there are often three driving forces that ultimately help shape the final, automotive product: (1) Finance/cost; (2) Manufacturing and (3) Engineering/technology. Having owned (CEO) my own high tech company, I know that while the “vision” of the company usually flowed from me, that vision often got derailed by practical matters, such as scheduling, cost and engineering/physics. I was told that things I wanted done were either too expensive, take too long to develop or beyond our capabilities (engineering or manufacturing wise). We don’t always get what we want, and life is a series of compromises.
06-21-2021, 04:51 PM
#110
Burning Brakes
The other reason may be the unique geometry of the 911’s dash and windshield. Evidenced by the known issue of a distracting reflection with certain colors on the dash, and Sport Chrono clock reflections.
Porsches implementation of the HUD on the Cayenne occasionally creates a reflection. Not a big deal and it’s rarely mentioned. But I think in the 911 the problem may be exacerbated.
Or I’m wrong; and the real reason is maintaining purity and weight savings. 🤓
06-21-2021, 06:00 PM
#111
I suspect that’s part of the issue.
The other reason may be the unique geometry of the 911’s dash and windshield. Evidenced by the known issue of a distracting reflection with certain colors on the dash, and Sport Chrono clock reflections.
Porsches implementation of the HUD on the Cayenne occasionally creates a reflection. Not a big deal and it’s rarely mentioned. But I think in the 911 the problem may be exacerbated.
Or I’m wrong; and the real reason is maintaining purity and weight savings. 🤓
The other reason may be the unique geometry of the 911’s dash and windshield. Evidenced by the known issue of a distracting reflection with certain colors on the dash, and Sport Chrono clock reflections.
Porsches implementation of the HUD on the Cayenne occasionally creates a reflection. Not a big deal and it’s rarely mentioned. But I think in the 911 the problem may be exacerbated.
Or I’m wrong; and the real reason is maintaining purity and weight savings. 🤓
Excellent point on possible reflection. My M4 has a minor reflection off the HUD mirror onto the front windshield...but the lighting has to be just so-to to see it, and minor.
But if it was weight savings, then they wouldn’t offer a glass sunroof...either no sunroof, carbon fiber or aluminum. Glass sunroofs add about 100+ lbs (or so I’ve read)...and right at the highest point of the car.