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Old May 16, 2021 | 08:26 PM
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I guess if I lived in Alaska and had the needs you described, I'd be a little more peeved than I am. Overall, though, I find the shortcomings you described to be very minor in the scheme of things, and I refuse to allow them to blunt my enjoyment of a car that is closer to perfect than almost any other car out there. I hope you are not enjoying your 992 less because of what you describe. No car being built today will score a perfect 100 percent on every aspect of its manufacture. Porsche deserves kudos for getting the really important stuff right.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OwingsMills
Overall, though, I find the shortcomings you described to be very minor in the scheme of things, and I refuse to allow them to blunt my enjoyment of a car that is closer to perfect than almost any other car out there.
Completely agree. I briefly noticed it when I picked up the car but haven't really thought about it since.

Skipping the GT steering wheel helps out. I barely have to move my head to see.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 09:21 PM
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Yeah, during the months of waiting for my car to be delivered, I thought the outer dial placement was going to bother me a fair bit, but honestly I don't think I've spent more than two seconds thinking about it since taking delivery. But I can see how some might be bothered more by it.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve 96C4S
I don't get it. I keep hearing this over and over about the 992 but my 9 year old Turbo S is exactly the same. You can't see the right and left gauges as a driver. I just move my head to see them. What's the big deal? It is what it is... and it's been like this for a long, long time.
Sit in or drive a 1960's era 911 and the value and the visibility of the 5 Gauge Cluster is impressive. The first time I sat in a 911, and gazed at that dashboard, at what must have been age 15, I just knew it was THE car I had to have.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 09:36 PM
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Yep. Your view of the gauges was perfect as your tail swung around to the front of the car in a sharp turn.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:05 PM
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I drove a 4.5 hour trip. Varied the rpm per break in. Prevailing wind was “at my back”. Ambient temperature around 60F.
Got over 31 mpg ! I was surprised. Have the extended range tank and had a range in excess of 650 miles upon fill up toward end of the trip. On the way home, into wind, rain on and off (wet mode only suggested once) my average mpg was closer to 25. Temps were in 40-50s F.
Gauges are annoyingly placed but oh well. Knew that when we bought it. Seat belt cutting into my neck was more annoying than the gauge placement.

Hubby got homelink to pair. But to have to go into CAR then CONTROLS to open garage? Ugh. Might be easier to keep the little remote in the car. We’ll see…

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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OwingsMills
I guess if I lived in Alaska and had the needs you described, I'd be a little more peeved than I am. Overall, though, I find the shortcomings you described to be very minor in the scheme of things, and I refuse to allow them to blunt my enjoyment of a car that is closer to perfect than almost any other car out there. I hope you are not enjoying your 992 less because of what you describe. No car being built today will score a perfect 100 percent on every aspect of its manufacture. Porsche deserves kudos for getting the really important stuff right.
Oh fully agree which is why these little things are sooooooo annoying. Like realizing that there is no seat belt adjustment and the damn things cuts into your jugular; there seems to be some contraption on Amazon you can buy to mitigate this, never had this on any other car (see the thread below)

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1251...l#post17434421

The sloppy coding of the PCM taking minutes to boot, a sorry excuse for a shifter ... it's the little things that annoy some and are dismissed by others and of course it all depends on where you live and how you plan to use the car. My Touareg will continue to be my DD simply because for where I live there's nothing as useful to tow, haul, get 4+ Siberians to the vet, refill my propane tank etc. But my 992 will be driven as often as I can and no it doesn't blunt my enjoyment it's just a shame QA didn't catch it.

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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage
I drove a 4.5 hour trip. Varied the rpm per break in. Prevailing wind was “at my back”. Ambient temperature around 60F.
Got over 31 mpg ! I was surprised. Have the extended range tank and had a range in excess of 650 miles upon fill up toward end of the trip. On the way home, into wind, rain on and off (wet mode only suggested once) my average mpg was closer to 25. Temps were in 40-50s F.
Gauges are annoyingly placed but oh well. Knew that when we bought it. Seat belt cutting into my neck was more annoying than the gauge placement.

Hubby got homelink to pair. But to have to go into CAR then CONTROLS to open garage? Ugh. Might be easier to keep the little remote in the car. We’ll see…
You can program your diamond button to HomeLink but it won't appear any faster. The easiest is to use the original remote that your garage came with and only use the HomeLink for when you come home as then the PCM will already be running. A small suggestion do not ask it to remember the GPS location of your garage

Yep, seat belt does get your attention...

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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:20 PM
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We won’t use GPS for privacy reasons. No intention of using Porsche connect.

Diamond button is programmed for the birds-eye camera which comes in handy.
Might change it to the garage opener but will live with it for awhile.

I expect when the GT4 arrives that’s the car I'll choose 90% of the time.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:23 PM
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Excellent! Don't use CarPlay either. Post some pics!

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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian
Oh fully agree which is why these little things are sooooooo annoying. Like realizing that there is no seat belt adjustment and the damn things cuts into your jugular; there seems to be some contraption on Amazon you can buy to mitigate this, never had this on any other car (see the thread below)

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1251...l#post17434421

The sloppy coding of the PCM taking minutes to boot, a sorry excuse for a shifter ... it's the little things that annoy some and are dismissed by others and of course it all depends on where you live and how you plan to use the car. My Touareg will continue to be my DD simply because for where I live there's nothing as useful to tow, haul, get 4+ Siberians to the vet, refill my propane tank etc. But my 992 will be driven as often as I can and no it doesn't blunt my enjoyment it's just a shame QA didn't catch it.

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The 2022 pcm update supposedly remedies the slow bootup.

Ideally we would have all been able to sit in a 911, choose our seats and make sure the seat belt fits correctly. But similar to nearly everyone here we took a leap of faith based on prior design and porsches reputation and I am 99.9% happy with my purchase despite the annoyance that I cannot keep my 12V power source alive to charge my car.

I thought I'd be bothered by road noise but I'm not. I thought I'd be bothered by the dials but I'm not. I thought that the pcm would be annoying af but homelink works, my burmester sounds great and the thrill of driving and trying not to go 90 everytime when I am in the car outweighs all the small annoyances.



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Old May 16, 2021 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tupper
Regarding the OP’s comment about fuel economy.....

If you are doing a break in, that’s basically why. Once you drive this car the way it was meant to be driven, you will see that change quickly
@tupper , Maybe he wont. Everyone seems to drive differently. Even when I was breaking it in and staying below 4K RPM I still spent the majority of my time above 3K and almost never went below 2.5K and so even in those early days my fuel consumption sucked and I was getting 17 -18 MPG now that I am way beyond breakin my average (now granted I have little to no highway use) is only 15 MPG average and sometimes less.

If someone is driving in regular mode and seldom pushes >4K RPM it is possible to get phenomenal fuel consumption although I have a recurring nightmare where I dream that I am getting 25 MPG and that has me waking up screaming.
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Old May 17, 2021 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by siberian
No, sorry I should have mentioned it, I got the 14 way. It's the upper body support that is lacking. The lower is OK, even if I find the actual seat rather hard over long and bumpy roads.

The HomeLink is an abject failure and reminiscent of Audi's eigenfrequency TPMS solution; an answer to a non existent problem. In the rush to over engineer you get this unusable "upgrade".

Concurrently with multi-threaded/multi-processor code you can and should be assigning priority to them enabling the completion of certain critical modules ahead of others. It is truly irrelevant to wait until the "ambient light" module has loaded and settings retrieved while you're idling in the garage waiting for the HomeLink to awake.

Another very "irritating" issue is the looks I (well the car) get(s) from younger...women. Very annoying and distracting I must say...

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I always open the garage door from the hardwired controller/opener located near the house/garage door. I started doing that years ago when I discovered that if I had not deactivated the remote lock-out on the hardwired controller (used so someone can’t wirelessly open your garage door)...that I would get in the car and start, only to find out my home link (in any of my cars) would not open the garage door...so had to turn off the car, get out and then de-activate the lock-out. I often forgot, and especially if I was in a rush in the morning. Got to be very annoying.

So now I just get in the habit of opening the garage door from the controller, first, get in the car, start and drive off. On the return home, the garage door automatically opens the door for me (I have to do nothing), as I have saved my GPS coordinates. Works like a champ, and is very handy as I approach my driveway, and not having to do anything....its like magic. 😎 There are things in the 992 that annoy me a bit, and think my M4 does a better job at...but the GPS activated features on the 992 isn’t one of them.

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Old May 17, 2021 | 11:59 AM
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Again depends on where you live. To open the garage door by 40 below, then get in the car, start the car etc, you've just warmed the entire neighborhood whilst dropping the temperature in your garage/home very substantially. My lockout happens to be a manual sliding lock which is never in place unless we go camping and the the door opener is unplugged as if someone did manage to get your code with the slide in place you'll burn out the motor.

Just annoying that what was a perfect, quick and effective emplacement for a remote has now been "improved". Another reason never to throw away your old remotes.

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Old May 17, 2021 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian
Again depends on where you live. To open the garage door by 40 below, then get in the car, start the car etc, you've just warmed the entire neighborhood whilst dropping the temperature in your garage/home very substantially. My lockout happens to be a manual sliding lock which is never in place unless we go camping and the the door opener is unplugged as if someone did manage to get your code with the slide in place you'll burn out the motor.

Just annoying that what was a perfect, quick and effective emplacement for a remote has now been "improved". Another reason never to throw away your old remotes.

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Yes, it depends a lot on where you live. Personally, I don’t experience anything close to -40F, but if I did, there’s zero chance I’m taking out my Porsche in those temps/road conditions. I have other vehicles that would be used.

Most/many newer garage door openers have a wireless lock-out feature. In addition, I too have the “manual” sliding lock, but have only used it once when I was away from the house for more than a month.

Well, the main reason never to throw away the remote is you need it to sync/program the Homelink, per the instructions.

I would have preferred a button (like I have on all 4 of my other cars) on the dash, or rear-view mirror...but with the incorporated GPS triggered opening, I have no complaints at this point. Maybe one day when it doesn’t get a GPS lock, I will have a gripe.
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