PPF
#16
This is precisely why I am hesitant about installing PPF. The damaged film looks worse than the underlying paint would if unprotected. When do you actually get to enjoy the protected paint? When the next installer peels the wrap off and you then enjoy looking at the protected paint just before he installs another wrap?
Not trying to be cute but just tying to better understand the value added by PPF? It seems most people will pay 💰 for the piece of mind of knowing their paint is protected without ever actually enjoying it. In the meantime, the wrapped car has to some extent a degraded depth of color and shine (albeit minor but still noticeable).
Not trying to be cute but just tying to better understand the value added by PPF? It seems most people will pay 💰 for the piece of mind of knowing their paint is protected without ever actually enjoying it. In the meantime, the wrapped car has to some extent a degraded depth of color and shine (albeit minor but still noticeable).
Last edited by gcurnew; 04-18-2021 at 10:27 PM.
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#17
Personal choice like many things, but personally I’ve never understood PPF. Wouldn’t go so far as to call it a scam but there always seem to be as many bad experiences with it as good ones, solution looking for a problem. On my white 997 I replaced the rear fender films more often then fixing any chips, because the panels went yellow.
#18
My car is just over a year old.. Never did PPF. Did ceramic coat, I know it's not the same but but I never had ppf on any of my other cars so didn't bother.
Until recent things have been ok. Now my car seems to be collecting rock chips like nobody's business.
I'm looking at possibly getting hood, fenders and front bumper done. But my question for you all is.
Does everyone here get ppf? Or was I the only one? And should I still bother getting it if there is already damage? Or is it too late?
Until recent things have been ok. Now my car seems to be collecting rock chips like nobody's business.
I'm looking at possibly getting hood, fenders and front bumper done. But my question for you all is.
Does everyone here get ppf? Or was I the only one? And should I still bother getting it if there is already damage? Or is it too late?
#20
I am undecided about PPF, I am very particular about how I keep my car and want it to be as near perfect as possible for as long as possible. Having said that I tend to think that it is unlikely that the cost of the PPF will add any where near its cost to the value of the car when I come to sell it. I am awaiting the delivery of my first 911 and I will probably have the car for around 10 years. After 10 years will the car have stone chips, undoubtedly yes. I have been driving for close to 50 years and have owned many many new cars and not one of them has had an excessive amount of stone chips. As already said I do like to keep my car nice but I am buying it for me not the next persons benefit. Maybe the design of the Porsche makes it prone to getting chipped, hopefully the quality of the paint isn't worse than on previous cars that I have owned. I still have another (estimated) seven weeks before I have to make my final decision.
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ChalkThe911 (04-18-2021)
#21
Lots of good feedback. Thanks everyone.
I sent a couple of feelers out to some local shops. One shop already said don't bother depending on how much damage the rock chips already did. They said for me to bring it in for an opinion but probably not worth it.
I kinda feel dumb not doing it from the start but there's a lot of good points brought up in thread.
I guess a follow up question would be has anyone have any experience with Dr colour chip? Or chipfixx?
I sent a couple of feelers out to some local shops. One shop already said don't bother depending on how much damage the rock chips already did. They said for me to bring it in for an opinion but probably not worth it.
I kinda feel dumb not doing it from the start but there's a lot of good points brought up in thread.
I guess a follow up question would be has anyone have any experience with Dr colour chip? Or chipfixx?
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#23
PPF is definitely not a scam. I ran over a gigantic tire tread w/ jagged exposed steel belts in my PPF'd M3. The impact was so hard, it popped loose my lower airdam grate and put these big rubber marks across the front bumper and underneath. I popped the loose grate back in place and washed off the rubber marks and you couldn't even tell I hit anything at all.
After I moved from California to AZ, my car started getting pelted like crazy with little rocks and I've had to replace my windshield 3x in the 3 yrs I've been here. I've also since got two small hood gouges down to the paint and a chip on my carbon fiber roof since I've moved to AZ (I don't have PPF on the hood or the roof) The front bumper that is PPF'd? Still looks brand new.
I've had PPF on the car for 6 yrs now and for the most part, you can't really tell the difference between regular painted and PPF'd surfaces. Both look just as glossy and shiny and it has not discolored much in 6 yrs. Now my stock BMW PPF on the rear arches look like crap, but I plan on just getting that replaced.
Bottom line is, PPF is not a scam and I really don't get this idea that you can't enjoy how the paint looks when covered in PPF when it pretty much looks identical to non PPF'd paint. As long as you are using a high quality PPF and a good installer, it will look totally fine.
If I still lived in Southern California, I may not get PPF because other than running over that giant tire tread, I haven't had many issues there with rock chips and debris pelting my car. But here in the AZ desert, with a bunch of people driving around in large trucks, my car gets pelted 24/7 and when my 992 arrives, I'm definitely going to get the front bumper, hood, mirrors, and rocker panel to rear qtr panels PPFd.
After I moved from California to AZ, my car started getting pelted like crazy with little rocks and I've had to replace my windshield 3x in the 3 yrs I've been here. I've also since got two small hood gouges down to the paint and a chip on my carbon fiber roof since I've moved to AZ (I don't have PPF on the hood or the roof) The front bumper that is PPF'd? Still looks brand new.
I've had PPF on the car for 6 yrs now and for the most part, you can't really tell the difference between regular painted and PPF'd surfaces. Both look just as glossy and shiny and it has not discolored much in 6 yrs. Now my stock BMW PPF on the rear arches look like crap, but I plan on just getting that replaced.
Bottom line is, PPF is not a scam and I really don't get this idea that you can't enjoy how the paint looks when covered in PPF when it pretty much looks identical to non PPF'd paint. As long as you are using a high quality PPF and a good installer, it will look totally fine.
If I still lived in Southern California, I may not get PPF because other than running over that giant tire tread, I haven't had many issues there with rock chips and debris pelting my car. But here in the AZ desert, with a bunch of people driving around in large trucks, my car gets pelted 24/7 and when my 992 arrives, I'm definitely going to get the front bumper, hood, mirrors, and rocker panel to rear qtr panels PPFd.
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#24
PPF is definitely not a scam. I ran over a gigantic tire tread w/ jagged exposed steel belts in my PPF'd M3. The impact was so hard, it popped loose my lower airdam grate and put these big rubber marks across the front bumper and underneath. I popped the loose grate back in place and washed off the rubber marks and you couldn't even tell I hit anything at all.
After I moved from California to AZ, my car started getting pelted like crazy with little rocks and I've had to replace my windshield 3x in the 3 yrs I've been here. I've also since got two small hood gouges down to the paint and a chip on my carbon fiber roof since I've moved to AZ (I don't have PPF on the hood or the roof) The front bumper that is PPF'd? Still looks brand new.
I've had PPF on the car for 6 yrs now and for the most part, you can't really tell the difference between regular painted and PPF'd surfaces. Both look just as glossy and shiny and it has not discolored much in 6 yrs. Now my stock BMW PPF on the rear arches look like crap, but I plan on just getting that replaced.
Bottom line is, PPF is not a scam and I really don't get this idea that you can't enjoy how the paint looks when covered in PPF when it pretty much looks identical to non PPF'd paint. As long as you are using a high quality PPF and a good installer, it will look totally fine.
If I still lived in Southern California, I may not get PPF because other than running over that giant tire tread, I haven't had many issues there with rock chips and debris pelting my car. But here in the AZ desert, with a bunch of people driving around in large trucks, my car gets pelted 24/7 and when my 992 arrives, I'm definitely going to get the front bumper, hood, mirrors, and rocker panel to rear qtr panels PPFd.
After I moved from California to AZ, my car started getting pelted like crazy with little rocks and I've had to replace my windshield 3x in the 3 yrs I've been here. I've also since got two small hood gouges down to the paint and a chip on my carbon fiber roof since I've moved to AZ (I don't have PPF on the hood or the roof) The front bumper that is PPF'd? Still looks brand new.
I've had PPF on the car for 6 yrs now and for the most part, you can't really tell the difference between regular painted and PPF'd surfaces. Both look just as glossy and shiny and it has not discolored much in 6 yrs. Now my stock BMW PPF on the rear arches look like crap, but I plan on just getting that replaced.
Bottom line is, PPF is not a scam and I really don't get this idea that you can't enjoy how the paint looks when covered in PPF when it pretty much looks identical to non PPF'd paint. As long as you are using a high quality PPF and a good installer, it will look totally fine.
If I still lived in Southern California, I may not get PPF because other than running over that giant tire tread, I haven't had many issues there with rock chips and debris pelting my car. But here in the AZ desert, with a bunch of people driving around in large trucks, my car gets pelted 24/7 and when my 992 arrives, I'm definitely going to get the front bumper, hood, mirrors, and rocker panel to rear qtr panels PPFd.
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pkalhan (07-06-2023)
#25
Actually, I would recommend doing the full rear quarter panels rather than just half way to door handle height. The front tires can and will throw debris higher than door handle height , especially on spirited drives in the twisties.
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ChalkThe911 (04-19-2021)
#29
This is precisely why I am hesitant about installing PPF. The damaged film looks worse than the underlying paint would if unprotected. When do you actually get to enjoy the protected paint? When the next installer peels the wrap off and you then enjoy looking at the protected paint just before he installs another wrap?
Not trying to be cute but just tying to better understand the value added by PPF? It seems most people will pay 💰 for the piece of mind of knowing their paint is protected without ever actually enjoying it. In the meantime, the wrapped car has to some extent a degraded depth of color and shine (albeit minor but still noticeable).
Not trying to be cute but just tying to better understand the value added by PPF? It seems most people will pay 💰 for the piece of mind of knowing their paint is protected without ever actually enjoying it. In the meantime, the wrapped car has to some extent a degraded depth of color and shine (albeit minor but still noticeable).
Longer term, higher mileage car--maybe a different story.
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