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Old 04-01-2021, 07:48 PM
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Default GT3 PDK "gear lever"

anyone know if the GT3 PDK lever can be fitted to a C2s 911? design looks great, and you get the feel of the older PDK gear lever.

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Old 04-01-2021, 07:51 PM
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Been discussed elsewhere...but, no, it cannot. The two boxes are completely different (8spd vs 7spd) and the 992 8spd no longer has any of the components need to support GT3 style gear lever going forward.
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No great fan of our mini razor pdk shifter, but kind of prefer it to the GT3 item, which is a bit too poser cheesy to my eyes. The look is great for a manual, but trying awfully hard to be something else on a pdk. To each his own I guess.
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Does anyone have empirical evidence that this is not possible? The 'no it cannot be done' answer has never, as far as I have seen, been backed up with facts. It's just a set of switches after all, we're not talking "MEchanically COnverted Shift Actuator (MECOSA)" here.
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I'm still planning to update my Braun razor to this updated stub Hahaha
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I want to swap out the GT3 shifter the 992 911 "Braun" shifter.
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Originally Posted by aggie57
Does anyone have empirical evidence that this is not possible? The 'no it cannot be done' answer has never, as far as I have seen, been backed up with facts. It's just a set of switches after all, we're not talking "MEchanically COnverted Shift Actuator (MECOSA)" here.
I've looked into this, and Chris3963 is correct. This is the 991 PDK selector parts diagram, and there is a physical connection from the selector to the gearbox. The new 8 speed PDK doesn't have the mechanical connector since everything is electronic (e.g. with Park now being a button instead of a position on the selector). Of course it is not impossible, but it is going to be a lot more difficult than just buying the GT3 part and swapping it in.



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Originally Posted by aggie57
Does anyone have empirical evidence that this is not possible? The 'no it cannot be done' answer has never, as far as I have seen, been backed up with facts. It's just a set of switches after all, we're not talking "MEchanically COnverted Shift Actuator (MECOSA)" here.
Is it possible? Sure. A couple old episodes of Pimp My Ride demonstrates that pretty much anything is possible.

Is it also cost prohibitive? Probably.
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I'd wait for the GT3 Parts Diagram before making any plans to, or dismissing the possibility of, installing the GT3 PDK Shifter in any other 992.

To be honest, I really kind of surprised that no one has come out with an attractive aftermarket shift **** replacement for the Braun Shaver. The mounting of the Braun Shaver phalls isn't exactly rocket science.
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Originally Posted by ChalkThe911
I'm still planning to update my Braun razor to this updated stub Hahaha
I did this upgrade too.
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Originally Posted by jdanza22
I did this upgrade too.
Its a small upgrade but better than nothing.
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Originally Posted by jdanza22
I did this upgrade too.
Me three.

It's not so much the look of the standard shifter that bugs me, it's the plasticky feel. Hoping the upgraded one feels a little more premium.
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Originally Posted by frankchn
I've looked into this, and Chris3963 is correct. This is the 991 PDK selector parts diagram, and there is a physical connection from the selector to the gearbox. The new 8 speed PDK doesn't have the mechanical connector since everything is electronic (e.g. with Park now being a button instead of a position on the selector). Of course it is not impossible, but it is going to be a lot more difficult than just buying the GT3 part and swapping it in.


That’s interesting, how does this connection work? Does it just manage fore/aft movement of the lever or is there some sort of rotation involved as well, as in when the lever moves to the manual plane the connector also transfers that to the gearbox? I’m sure someone here has pulled these apart.

Of course in a 8-speed that all becomes redundant as you say but then I imagine you’d have the issue of there being no manual shift movement expected from the lever in an 8-speed, so that would need to be engineered. The 7-speed PDK must support electronic manual shifting already regardless of this cable otherwise the paddles wouldn’t work. What gets priority in a 7-speed, paddles or lever? Pull the lever and hit a paddle at the same time, who wins?
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Originally Posted by aggie57
That’s interesting, how does this connection work? Does it just manage fore/aft movement of the lever or is there some sort of rotation involved as well, as in when the lever moves to the manual plane the connector also transfers that to the gearbox? I’m sure someone here has pulled these apart.

Of course in a 8-speed that all becomes redundant as you say but then I imagine you’d have the issue of there being no manual shift movement expected from the lever in an 8-speed, so that would need to be engineered. The 7-speed PDK must support electronic manual shifting already regardless of this cable otherwise the paddles wouldn’t work. What gets priority in a 7-speed, paddles or lever? Pull the lever and hit a paddle at the same time, who wins?
When the shifter is moved to manual, it's just activating switches at that point. The position of the cable does not change. The shifter has switches to register the manual mode, shift up and shift down. Just like the paddles it's just a electrical signal to the TCU.

The cable is is for putting the transmission in park, reverse and drive.

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Originally Posted by Todd B
When the shifter is moved to manual, it's just activating switches at that point. The position of the cable does not change. The shifter has switches to register the manual mode, shift up and shift down. Just like the paddles it's just a electrical signal to the TCU.

The cable is is for putting the transmission in park, reverse and drive.
Makes sense, thanks. I couldn’t see a single cable being used to transfer axial movement.


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