c2s - 2020 options - help me decide!
11-08-2020, 01:55 AM
#61
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Pass.
If this was indeed the car for you, you would have bought it already instead of soliciting advice from peanut gallery here.
If this was indeed the car for you, you would have bought it already instead of soliciting advice from peanut gallery here.
11-08-2020, 01:56 AM
#62
My money would be on this car being the “show room 911”. Those tyres might need a change, potentially flat spotted.
That scratch, that’s not a high impact mark, more likely a small child on a scooter clipped it whilst Daddy (or mummy) was licking the windows of his/her dream machine.
As said before, new cars get damaged and fixed before delivery. Wife had a new Land Rover, front grill trim had a 1 inch dent in it. Must have happened at the dealer, but I did enjoy verbally destroying the SA for it then doing the same to the GM for not having the SA check a brand new car the day of delivery.
Sounds like a go car to me, all depends if the 14% off is against new car price or what an 18month old car would cost.
That scratch, that’s not a high impact mark, more likely a small child on a scooter clipped it whilst Daddy (or mummy) was licking the windows of his/her dream machine.
As said before, new cars get damaged and fixed before delivery. Wife had a new Land Rover, front grill trim had a 1 inch dent in it. Must have happened at the dealer, but I did enjoy verbally destroying the SA for it then doing the same to the GM for not having the SA check a brand new car the day of delivery.
Sounds like a go car to me, all depends if the 14% off is against new car price or what an 18month old car would cost.
11-08-2020, 05:08 AM
#63
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What they all have said below...pros and cons that I won't repeat all. I'd say 15% plus a respray of the bumper and a CPO and we're good. Do the deal...you don't need a 3rd party inspection with the CPO really as its still a new car and the CPO will cover 6mo/100k miles and they will fix whatever they need to and what is the 3rd party inspection gonna show really? If they CPO it you get the same thing as a 3rd party inspection really. If the color and options are okay with you I'd pull the trigger...sweet performance based ride! Won't last too long with folks looking for 992s out there and inventory so spotty....of course I'd mention FY21 release when mentioning the above out the door OTD offer to the dealers as once they are released next week (11/13 release date) they will probably drop the valuation down a lil bit on 2021s! Good luck and let us know what happens with pics! 
11-08-2020, 09:30 AM
#64
walk away.
11-08-2020, 01:17 PM
#65
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Thread Starter
the car works for me - things holding me back, as mentioned previously:
1) doesn't have full warranty (warranty period started on 2/2020)
2) the scratch on the rear bumper
i will keep the forum posted.
11-08-2020, 01:19 PM
#66
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Thread Starter
My money would be on this car being the “show room 911”. Those tyres might need a change, potentially flat spotted.
That scratch, that’s not a high impact mark, more likely a small child on a scooter clipped it whilst Daddy (or mummy) was licking the windows of his/her dream machine.
As said before, new cars get damaged and fixed before delivery. Wife had a new Land Rover, front grill trim had a 1 inch dent in it. Must have happened at the dealer, but I did enjoy verbally destroying the SA for it then doing the same to the GM for not having the SA check a brand new car the day of delivery.
Sounds like a go car to me, all depends if the 14% off is against new car price or what an 18month old car would cost.
That scratch, that’s not a high impact mark, more likely a small child on a scooter clipped it whilst Daddy (or mummy) was licking the windows of his/her dream machine.
As said before, new cars get damaged and fixed before delivery. Wife had a new Land Rover, front grill trim had a 1 inch dent in it. Must have happened at the dealer, but I did enjoy verbally destroying the SA for it then doing the same to the GM for not having the SA check a brand new car the day of delivery.
Sounds like a go car to me, all depends if the 14% off is against new car price or what an 18month old car would cost.
ack your other points - thank you for the data points!
11-08-2020, 01:23 PM
#67
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Thread Starter
What they all have said below...pros and cons that I won't repeat all. I'd say 15% plus a respray of the bumper and a CPO and we're good. Do the deal...you don't need a 3rd party inspection with the CPO really as its still a new car and the CPO will cover 6mo/100k miles and they will fix whatever they need to and what is the 3rd party inspection gonna show really? If they CPO it you get the same thing as a 3rd party inspection really. If the color and options are okay with you I'd pull the trigger...sweet performance based ride! Won't last too long with folks looking for 992s out there and inventory so spotty....of course I'd mention FY21 release when mentioning the above out the door OTD offer to the dealers as once they are released next week (11/13 release date) they will probably drop the valuation down a lil bit on 2021s! Good luck and let us know what happens with pics!
they have agreed to fix the scratch on the bumper but i have a competitive quote on fixing this issue from the body shop that i work with. so i might ask for a further concession from the store and get the issue fixed myself. but i am also told by forum members that the store's insurance ought to cover fixing this completely - so i will likely first push the store to just fix the issue right (they said it would cost them $3500 to fix it which (1) sounds very high based on the quote i got from the body shop i work with on my other cars; (2) should be covered by store's insurance anyways.
Last edited by Arun Rao; 11-08-2020 at 01:29 PM.
11-08-2020, 02:38 PM
#69
Burning Brakes
good point, although this is still a $100k+ purchase - and i respect the opinions of the folks on this forum
the car works for me - things holding me back, as mentioned previously:
1) doesn't have full warranty (warranty period started on 2/2020)
2) the scratch on the rear bumper
i will keep the forum posted.
the car works for me - things holding me back, as mentioned previously:
1) doesn't have full warranty (warranty period started on 2/2020)
2) the scratch on the rear bumper
i will keep the forum posted.
11-08-2020, 02:48 PM
#70
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Thread Starter
i will follow up with yourcarbuyingadvocate.com - how big a discount were you able to secure on your 2020 c4s? thx.
[edit: scheduled time with yourcarbuyingadvocate.com tomorrow bright and early california time]
Last edited by Arun Rao; 11-08-2020 at 02:57 PM.
11-08-2020, 03:58 PM
#71
Burning Brakes
"questonable deal" because of hidden issues that i am unaware of? again the issues i am grappling with are (1) reduced warranty period; (2) scratch on bumper.
i will follow up with yourcarbuyingadvocate.com - how big a discount were you able to secure on your 2020 c4s? thx.
[edit: scheduled time with yourcarbuyingadvocate.com tomorrow bright and early california time]
i will follow up with yourcarbuyingadvocate.com - how big a discount were you able to secure on your 2020 c4s? thx.
[edit: scheduled time with yourcarbuyingadvocate.com tomorrow bright and early california time]
11-08-2020, 04:02 PM
#72
Instructor
Thread Starter
11-08-2020, 05:44 PM
#73
Burning Brakes
I sold one car and bought two with him. Not only did I have no stress on the deal, he handled all the issues. I feel that on all three deals, he did better than I could have done on my own.
11-08-2020, 08:53 PM
#74
There is definitely a lot of unanswered questions but in reality if you love the car, they fix the bumper, and they give you a CPO all for 14% off then you are getting a 2020 C2S with a 5 year warranty for a very reasonable price and especially if you are not planning on keeping the car for more than 5 years they will have paid your first year depreciation and then some and you will have a reasonable added discount to pad the deal. If it is your forever car then personally the questions raised would bother me a little more and also if you are keeping a car for 10 years then the depreciation is not as important and you want to make sure the build is exactly what you wanted.
It is strange though that this demonstrator has only 20 miles and that in this current Covid crisis they actually offered you 14% off - clearly you did not have to fight for it.
Bear in mind though as one astute poster stated at some point - most people go into a car with the idea that it is their forever car until 2 years later when they are in the process of trading.
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It is strange though that this demonstrator has only 20 miles and that in this current Covid crisis they actually offered you 14% off - clearly you did not have to fight for it.
Bear in mind though as one astute poster stated at some point - most people go into a car with the idea that it is their forever car until 2 years later when they are in the process of trading.
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Last edited by craig66; 11-08-2020 at 09:21 PM.
11-08-2020, 09:16 PM
#75
Burning Brakes
There is definitely a lot of unanswered questions but in reality if you love the car, they fix the bumper, and they give you a CPO all for 14% off then you are getting a 2020 C2S with a 5 year warranty for a very reasonable price and especially if you are not planning on keeping the car for more than 5 years they will have paid your first year depreciation and then some and you will have a reasonable added discount to pad the deal. If it is your forever car then personally the questions raised would bother me a little more and also if you are keeping a car for 10 years then the depreciation is not as important and you want to make sure the build is exactly what you wanted.
It is strange though that this demonstrator has only 20 miles and that in this current Covid crisis they actually offered you 14% off - clearly you did not have to fight for it.
Bear in mind though as one astute poster stated at some point - most people go into a car with the idea that it is their former car until 2 years later when they are in the process of trading.
I
It is strange though that this demonstrator has only 20 miles and that in this current Covid crisis they actually offered you 14% off - clearly you did not have to fight for it.
Bear in mind though as one astute poster stated at some point - most people go into a car with the idea that it is their former car until 2 years later when they are in the process of trading.
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