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Old 09-20-2020, 10:48 PM
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to whoever said 991 turbo vs 992 S, that will be an amazing race, I think the 991.2 turbo may edge it out, but the .1 I think may either be the same or even loose. But someone needs to make that race happen.
Old 09-20-2020, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Phillip Berk
to whoever said 991 turbo vs 992 S, that will be an amazing race, I think the 991.2 turbo may edge it out, but the .1 I think may either be the same or even loose. But someone needs to make that race happen.
Yeah that was me. I used to have a .2 Turbo.

I haven't back to back driven it against the 992. I sold the Turbo awhile ago. My recollection is that the acceleration feels a bit more brutal on the Turbo...BUT...that was my first 3 sec (0-60) car. Since then I've had the M5 competition (no slouch) and then this one. I've grown accustomed to acceleration, so I can't really trust my memories on this one. I'd love to see the match up.
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:56 AM
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Am I wrong or did he only hit the Sport Response button before the first run where they used launch control?
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I didn’t even know you were supposed to hit the sports response button for launch control 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Originally Posted by rk-d
Yeah that was me. I used to have a .2 Turbo.

I haven't back to back driven it against the 992. I sold the Turbo awhile ago. My recollection is that the acceleration feels a bit more brutal on the Turbo...BUT...that was my first 3 sec (0-60) car. Since then I've had the M5 competition (no slouch) and then this one. I've grown accustomed to acceleration, so I can't really trust my memories on this one. I'd love to see the match up.
According to Car and Driver, 991.2 Turbo is definitely faster. Quarter mile is 10.7 sec @ 129mph vs 11.3 @ 125mph. That's roughly the difference a 992 C2S and an NA 991.1 C2S.
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Originally Posted by Phillip Berk
to whoever said 991 turbo vs 992 S, that will be an amazing race, I think the 991.2 turbo may edge it out, but the .1 I think may either be the same or even loose. But someone needs to make that race happen.
I own a 991.2 turbo and have driven a few 992's - S versions, both C2 and C4. They are certainly quick - not quite quick enough to topple a previous generation Turbo though. 991.2 turbos/S run mid to high 10 second quarters fairly easy and I have not seen a 992 non-Turbo break into the 10's yet (at least not officially),....close but not quite yet. Porsche does this by intention - they never try and trample on a previous generation Turbo with a new era Carerra - but certainly go for it in the .2 version of it. I will like to see what the upcoming GTS will do though!
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A few add-ons and a tune and the C2S will be in the 10's. One person on here with a stock C2S is already running 11.1 pretty consistently.
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Originally Posted by Rocket_boy
I own a 991.2 turbo and have driven a few 992's - S versions, both C2 and C4. They are certainly quick - not quite quick enough to topple a previous generation Turbo though. 991.2 turbos/S run mid to high 10 second quarters fairly easy and I have not seen a 992 non-Turbo break into the 10's yet (at least not officially),....close but not quite yet. Porsche does this by intention - they never try and trample on a previous generation Turbo with a new era Carerra - but certainly go for it in the .2 version of it. I will like to see what the upcoming GTS will do though!
Yeah, that sounds about right.

C2S is fast, but there is a bit of violence that I remember with the Turbo that it doesn't quite match.
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Well, this is interesting....

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...1-test-review/

Camaro should have won the rolling race easily....

BTW, Porsche underrated HP by about 10%... according to this article...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019...a-s-dyno-test/
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Originally Posted by comis_hq
Well, this is interesting....

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...1-test-review/

Camaro should have won the rolling race easily....

BTW, Porsche underrated HP by about 10%... according to this article...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019...a-s-dyno-test/
It's more than HP. It's weight and where that weight is carried.
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Originally Posted by Bryan Simmons
I didn’t even know you were supposed to hit the sports response button for launch control 🤷🏻‍♂️
I think both launch control and sports response put the car essentially into the same mode of maximizing output delivary adn so I am not sure that SR would add anything when already doing launch control
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Originally Posted by detansinn
It's more than HP. It's weight and where that weight is carried.
And how Porsche is better at putting down the power with less parasitic drive train loss versus a front-engine, RWD setup.
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Originally Posted by comis_hq
Well, this is interesting....

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...1-test-review/

Camaro should have won the rolling race easily....

BTW, Porsche underrated HP by about 10%... according to this article...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019...a-s-dyno-test/
Are you talking about the top gear 30 - 50 and 50 - 70 figures? Those require the transmission to downshift and turbos to spool, which advantages the supercharged Camaro. In Throttle House video, the cars were in gear.

The rest of the data supports C2S winning from a dig.
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Originally Posted by comis_hq
Well, this is interesting....

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...1-test-review/

Camaro should have won the rolling race easily....

BTW, Porsche underrated HP by about 10%... according to this article...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019...a-s-dyno-test/
If you watch closely, the ZL1 gains very little, if at all, on the C2S during the rolling race. The race put on by TH is more realistic of a typical street race.
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Originally Posted by craig66
I think both launch control and sports response put the car essentially into the same mode of maximizing output delivary adn so I am not sure that SR would add anything when already doing launch control

It does make a difference. See below:



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