Weight Saving Options
#16
Doesn't an after market exhaust usually give you a weight savings as well? (18.5 lbs or so).
For me, if I went on a diet that would represent a nice weight savings as well. Whoops, I'd better stop eating all of that popcorn.
For me, if I went on a diet that would represent a nice weight savings as well. Whoops, I'd better stop eating all of that popcorn.
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#17
My best guess on relative roof weights: lightest to heaviest.
The Carbon Fibre roof would be the lightest (better be considering the cost).
The second-lightest would be the standard aluminum non-opening roof (Porsche illustration shows aluminum panels in green).
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019...911-18802.html
The opening metal sunroof would be appreciably heavier than the non-opening roof as it's steel rather than aluminum (according to the configurator) and also has motor and cassette.
The glass roof is likely the heaviest option: glass weighs a lot compared to aluminum or steel and there is also motor and cassette.
The Carbon Fibre roof would be the lightest (better be considering the cost).
The second-lightest would be the standard aluminum non-opening roof (Porsche illustration shows aluminum panels in green).
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019...911-18802.html
The opening metal sunroof would be appreciably heavier than the non-opening roof as it's steel rather than aluminum (according to the configurator) and also has motor and cassette.
The glass roof is likely the heaviest option: glass weighs a lot compared to aluminum or steel and there is also motor and cassette.
#18
FOR ME, 911s with any sunroof is one of my few, absolute no gos. I understand some people love sunroofs and they should order it how they want, but go cab instead or stay coupe, don't split the baby.
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#22
One thing to keep in mind about reducing weight that I think many people overlook is balance.
Yes, it's good to reduce weight with a lightweight battery, but then that just makes the front of the car even lighter (vis-a-vis the rear), which will throw off the cornering and braking of the car (as the stock suspension setup is tuned for a certain weight and weight distribution). Not to mention how this will affect the aero of the car at speed.
This is less of an issue when we are talking about reducing mass or weight equally from the car -- i.e., wheels or brakes -- but it is still something to consider as, again, the suspension is not necessarily setup for what can be described as not insignificant weight reduction.
Yes, it's good to reduce weight with a lightweight battery, but then that just makes the front of the car even lighter (vis-a-vis the rear), which will throw off the cornering and braking of the car (as the stock suspension setup is tuned for a certain weight and weight distribution). Not to mention how this will affect the aero of the car at speed.
This is less of an issue when we are talking about reducing mass or weight equally from the car -- i.e., wheels or brakes -- but it is still something to consider as, again, the suspension is not necessarily setup for what can be described as not insignificant weight reduction.
#24
One thing to keep in mind about reducing weight that I think many people overlook is balance.
Yes, it's good to reduce weight with a lightweight battery, but then that just makes the front of the car even lighter (vis-a-vis the rear), which will throw off the cornering and braking of the car (as the stock suspension setup is tuned for a certain weight and weight distribution). Not to mention how this will affect the aero of the car at speed.
This is less of an issue when we are talking about reducing mass or weight equally from the car -- i.e., wheels or brakes -- but it is still something to consider as, again, the suspension is not necessarily setup for what can be described as not insignificant weight reduction.
Yes, it's good to reduce weight with a lightweight battery, but then that just makes the front of the car even lighter (vis-a-vis the rear), which will throw off the cornering and braking of the car (as the stock suspension setup is tuned for a certain weight and weight distribution). Not to mention how this will affect the aero of the car at speed.
This is less of an issue when we are talking about reducing mass or weight equally from the car -- i.e., wheels or brakes -- but it is still something to consider as, again, the suspension is not necessarily setup for what can be described as not insignificant weight reduction.
#25
One thing to keep in mind about reducing weight that I think many people overlook is balance.
Yes, it's good to reduce weight with a lightweight battery, but then that just makes the front of the car even lighter (vis-a-vis the rear), which will throw off the cornering and braking of the car (as the stock suspension setup is tuned for a certain weight and weight distribution). Not to mention how this will affect the aero of the car at speed.
This is less of an issue when we are talking about reducing mass or weight equally from the car -- i.e., wheels or brakes -- but it is still something to consider as, again, the suspension is not necessarily setup for what can be described as not insignificant weight reduction.
Yes, it's good to reduce weight with a lightweight battery, but then that just makes the front of the car even lighter (vis-a-vis the rear), which will throw off the cornering and braking of the car (as the stock suspension setup is tuned for a certain weight and weight distribution). Not to mention how this will affect the aero of the car at speed.
This is less of an issue when we are talking about reducing mass or weight equally from the car -- i.e., wheels or brakes -- but it is still something to consider as, again, the suspension is not necessarily setup for what can be described as not insignificant weight reduction.
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#29
I seem to recall a thread that showed how much weight the carbon roof saves, and thought it was around 4 pounds (3.8 sticks in my mind for some reason). I cannot find that thread any longer, despite spending a bunch of time searching.
However, that got me thinking about all the options that save weight. (If this information already exists in one place, happy to be pointed that direction and can delete this thread.)
Factory options:
Carbon roof: 30% compared to steel (IIRC 3-4 pounds)
PCCB: 40 pounds (based on some other threads I saw)
4-way vs. 14-/18-way seats: ~60 pounds
Lightweight/insulated glass: 8 pounds
Sunroof delete: ??? (this almost seems like it would a weight increase depending on which of the two sunroof options a buyer spec'd)
Manual Transmission: 77 pounds
Base interior (i.e., not full leather): ???
Aftermarket options to save weight:
Aftermarket wheels: 20-40 pounds
AntiGravity Battery: 40 pounds
Exhaust: 18 pounds (depends on specific system)
I can update this with other options/suggestions as they come up.
However, that got me thinking about all the options that save weight. (If this information already exists in one place, happy to be pointed that direction and can delete this thread.)
Factory options:
Carbon roof: 30% compared to steel (IIRC 3-4 pounds)
PCCB: 40 pounds (based on some other threads I saw)
4-way vs. 14-/18-way seats: ~60 pounds
Lightweight/insulated glass: 8 pounds
Sunroof delete: ??? (this almost seems like it would a weight increase depending on which of the two sunroof options a buyer spec'd)
Manual Transmission: 77 pounds
Base interior (i.e., not full leather): ???
Aftermarket options to save weight:
Aftermarket wheels: 20-40 pounds
AntiGravity Battery: 40 pounds
Exhaust: 18 pounds (depends on specific system)
I can update this with other options/suggestions as they come up.
-Chad
chad@antigravitybatteries.com
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#30
Thank you - I love my Antigravity Battery. Easy install and no problems or codes thrown. It is a real DIY. When I put that and Soul Performance side deletes in the back of my Touring, it lost 75 lbs. without breaking a sweat. And, my battery never skipped a beat.