Luis Dos Santos

Hey guys,

Apologies if this has already been discussed but would like some views and buying advise.

A newly well spec’d 992 C2S is similarly priced to a used 2018 991.2 Turbo S. Both awesome machines.

Has anyone come out of a 991.2 Turbo S into a new 992 CS? Would be interested in your thoughts and comparisons.

Thanks!

Richard_Wallace

I have a couple of view points that might be helpful. My buddy has a 991.2 Turbo S and he often borrows one of my other cars and I get ample seat time in it.

Also before buying my 992 C4S (Manual Trans) - I was either going to go 991.2 GTS or 991.2 Turbo S. - as I could not find any 992 in MT, so was opting for a 2018/19 GTS or Turbo S.

I will say the Turbo S, is much quicker than the CS/C4S - specifically once you get to 80+ MPH. It is also quicker 0-60. So performance wise - the 991.2 Turbo S is a beast, and honestly not that close to the current 992 line up. (I will say though, the CS/C4S is plenty fast).

I would say the 992 CS/C4S is close to the 991.2 GTS performance - had a ton of seat time in those, as that was what I was going to get if I could not get a 992 in MT.

Where the separation happens, and why I waited and eventually found what I was looking for in a 992. As this was going to by my daily driver:

The comfort, PCM, tech is so much better in the 992 generation. For some this is not maybe that big of deal, but I will tell you - it is night and day different. And for a daily driver, this was important for me.

I will say the 991.2 GTS 4 that I drove (and nearly bought) and the 992 C4S that I ended up with. Similar performance (seat of the pants), drive feel and quality were the same. It was the new layout and tech that made it an easier decision.

If this were my fun car and not daily driver, I would opt for a 991.2 Turbo S over the 992 CS. Better performance, more exclusive, way more power, torque, track fun, etc. So depends on what you are looking for..

gcurnew

991 Turbo S is already depreciated a chunk, and will hold its value well, so TCO might actually be lower than a 992 C2S which will have a steep depreciation curve the first 3 years.

rk-d

Owned a 991.2 TT and now a 992 c2s.

992 is the easy choice, IMO.

Penn4S

Just my opinion but I have owned several TT cars. The TTS is just an awesome car that does so much right. Blisteringly fast, AWD/RWS with all the goodies, PDCC, PASM, Ceramic brakes and can be an awesome track car or grand tourer. It is the best Porsche makes not counting the GT cars which it is better than most.
992 seems like a great car so no bad choice but the TTS is in another league.

Outlaw

Driving 991.2 and 992 back to back, surprised at lack of steering and chassis feedback on 992. Finally succumbing to the lemmings on comfort a lot like M series BMW.

Maybe GTS brings it back.

rk-d

Laughably wrong.

diononiz

Having owned a 991.1 turbo and now a 992 Carrera S. There are two ways the 991.1 turbo was better, straight line speed (its close but my turbo had like 70bhp more) and all weather traction (don't really need 4wd in the Bay Area)

The 992 handles, steers and rides better. The interior is night and day better for the 992. The 991 interior now looks really dated and will continue to look more dated as time goes on.

Richard_Wallace

My point as well, the difference between the 991.1/.2 and the 992 from an interior/tech perspective is like going from the stone age, to the future - it is really that much of a difference. If this is a DD that weights much more than if it is a weekend, short drive car.

In my 720s and F12, the creature comforts are not that important as I am not driving that much/far, etc. , so I would go with a TT over a base or S 992 - for the power, and exclusivity if this was my fun car, and something that I could live with every day (even as a DD). If you want comfort and ability to track and have fun - the 992 checks a lot of boxes (more so than any Ferrari, Mac or Lambo) in all categories. All those that I have or owned, are still great in different ways than porsche, but the 992 is truly a unique utility knife, good at a lot of things.

I took a 40 mile ride in my 720s today, and literally commented out loud to my son, that I wish I had the 992 18 way seats in the Mac. It (the 992) is really that good. The Mac will dust it in every category performance wise, but there is a point where 450HP is enough and just as much fun 95% of the time. Of course my 992 is a manual as well, so that elevate the fun factor a bit (for me anyway).

msile

I have both cars. The 991.2 Turbo is a beast. Period. It does everything well while being comfortable. Zero squeaks and rattles (unlike my 992). Also love the interior. To me it does not look dated as others have stated (perhaps it is better appointed). The 992 is the daily. It's a great daily. The steering is sharper (not by much in regular driving) and the pdk is better (not by much again). The tech is definitely better when it works (door handle, sunroof, garage door opener, programmable buttons). I drove both the standard Carrera and the S extensively and settled for the standard (spent the rest in options) as I loved the engine response and being able to wring out the engine more and also because I already have a fast car. I would go for the best bang for the buck. Having said all this the 996 turbo is the most fun for me

FSB

hi, Luis

991 TTS and 992 CS both are great cars.
I think if you need DD it’s better to get 992.

rk-d

1) Speed: The 991.2 Turbo is the faster car in all situations. From 0-60, the difference is not necessarily all that significant, but at speed and in gear, the 991.2 Turbo will pull on a 992. At highway speeds this is more pronounced. Turbo wins that round.

2) Handling: The 992 is very agile, IMO. It has a playful chassis and incisive steering. Porsche does keep getting better at electric steering - which is why I found the previous comment on the 992 approaching BMW ridiculous. Does it feel like an old air-cooled car with wriggly hydraulic steering and a go-kart like chassis? Of course not. But then the 991.2 doesn't either. The Turbo feels bigger. Not oppressively bigger and not enough to call it a negative on its own - but it does feel bigger than a 992. I think the 992 wins here.


3) Interior: Fit and finish of the interior may be a wash. In some ways the 991.2 was better, but I had a Porsche Exclusive interior decked out with deviated stitching etc on my Turbo. That said, the 991.2 already felt dated when it came out. Maybe it's because I have sport-tex and no sunroof, but I have zero creaks/noises right now at 700 miles in my 992 and the interior is a very nice place to be. The tech is clearly better and I do like the look of the interior more. Maybe they've ironed out some glitches, because my infotainment and comfort access features are reliable and effective. For me - the 992 easily wins this one.

4) Appearance: Aesthetics are personal, but I prefer the looks of my 992 to my 991.2 Turbo. A good bit of that, however, depends on how the 992 is spec'ed. 992 by a nose on this one.

5) Intangibles: The thing about the Turbo is the fact that it is a Turbo. It's always been the common man's supercar. Having owned a Turbo, it's easy to say the 992 C2S is the better way to go -- but there is an emotional component to this stuff too. The Turbo has a "King of the Road" feel. A properly appointed 992 does have real presence, but the Turbo does win out in the intangibles department.

Both are great cars but, in the end, the 992 is the winner for me.

Dan Nagy

This must be trolling. Any owner of a 991.2 that drives a 992 will be smacked in the face with the improved driving dynamics. Of course, all of the owners here that have traded their cars, and all of the experts could be wrong. Lol.

diononiz

One other thing that is quite interesting is that my 992 S Cab seems to attract way more attention than my 991.1 turbo did. Maybe its the new body style or perhaps its that it is a cab. I never really cared about this in the past, its just that when I got the Aston Martin, everyone asked me about it. This is in stark contract to when I had my 991.1 turbo and no one seemed to notice it.

Outlaw

Not really, and my sentiments on layers of chassis comfort are not alone. And not a fan of electronic steering.

Peak torque coming on @2300 rpm vs 1600 makes car lazy on street. Carreras are clearly undertuned and that will be addressed in GTS and turbo, so weary of manufacturers tuning software for big $$$.

Just calling it as I see it and feel it, draw whatever conclusions you want.