992 CS or 991.2 Turbo S
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Both interiors are nice places to be, although I do prefer the newer 992’s interior.
Steering feedback is better in the 992.
Raw visceral driving feel will go the the 991.2 TTS
Exterior looks will go to the 992 for me.
Value for money would go the the 991.2 TTS as I expect the 992 to depreciate drastically in its first 3 years.
My head says 991.2 TTS....my heart, my desire is for the newer car...they say you shouldn’t ever buy a sports car with your head...because ultimately it’s about how they make you feel...but at the current new car prices I can’t simply make decisions hap hazard....
For a little more than a well specced 991.2 CS you’re in used Ferrari 458 territory...but then where do you stop?
This Covid Lockdown is somewhat of a blessing to my indecisive mind....I still need more time...
#32
Racer
I'm in the same boat, new to Porsche and still don't own one, but I have made my mind up, I will own a 911 within the next year. I can't decide if I should get a new 992 Carrera 4S or a lightly used 991.2 TTS. I drove the 992 C4S and I loved it, but I'm not sure if it is going to feel fast enough since I've got a new X5M Competition on order and it'll haul *** for what it is. I know the driving dynamics of any Porsche are going to completely demolish the X5M. I'm not comparing a SAV with a 911, but I am comparing straight line speed/power. If I get into the 992 after driving the X5M and don't feel like I'm going much faster, I could see myself wishing I had the 991.2 TTS, but I won't know for sure until I get the X5M and I have no idea when that will happen...guessing October. I haven't driven a 991.2 TTS, hopefully I remedy that soon. I think the total cost of ownership is going to be lower in a lightly used 991.2 TTS, unless I break a ceramic rotor. I could be wrong, once the 992 TTS comes out, the value of the 991.2's may tank. The entire time I was driving the 992 C4S I was smiling, so it probably is fast enough....maybe I just answered my own question, maybe not. Maybe this should be a poll? I'm not sure how to set that up, but I'd be curious to see how many people would go 992 C4S vs 991.2 TTS
#33
Racer
To be honest I think I’m left more confused than before. There are advantages and disadvantages to both...I have driven both...my perceptions:
Both interiors are nice places to be, although I do prefer the newer 992’s interior.
Steering feedback is better in the 992.
Raw visceral driving feel will go the the 991.2 TTS
Exterior looks will go to the 992 for me.
Value for money would go the the 991.2 TTS as I expect the 992 to depreciate drastically in its first 3 years.
My head says 991.2 TTS....my heart, my desire is for the newer car...they say you shouldn’t ever buy a sports car with your head...because ultimately it’s about how they make you feel...but at the current new car prices I can’t simply make decisions hap hazard....
For a little more than a well specced 991.2 CS you’re in used Ferrari 458 territory...but then where do you stop?
This Covid Lockdown is somewhat of a blessing to my indecisive mind....I still need more time...
Both interiors are nice places to be, although I do prefer the newer 992’s interior.
Steering feedback is better in the 992.
Raw visceral driving feel will go the the 991.2 TTS
Exterior looks will go to the 992 for me.
Value for money would go the the 991.2 TTS as I expect the 992 to depreciate drastically in its first 3 years.
My head says 991.2 TTS....my heart, my desire is for the newer car...they say you shouldn’t ever buy a sports car with your head...because ultimately it’s about how they make you feel...but at the current new car prices I can’t simply make decisions hap hazard....
For a little more than a well specced 991.2 CS you’re in used Ferrari 458 territory...but then where do you stop?
This Covid Lockdown is somewhat of a blessing to my indecisive mind....I still need more time...
#34
Don't get wrapped around the axle with the X5M. I'm not comparing that to a 911, that is preposterous, but I am thinking about power/speed. I would like my sports car to feel a good bit faster than my X5M and I think a 992 C4S would accomplish that, I know a 991.2 TTS would. I was thinking 4s because there are a few on lots near me and that is what I test drove. I could see all wheel drive coming in handy as I drive through all kinds of weather, long distances, snow, mountains, heavy rain. The C4S felt like a rear wheel drive car to me and I was able to whip the *** out whenever I wanted to. I like going fast in a straight line too, and all wheel drive helps with that. Do you think the C2S is a better choice than C4S?
#35
The biggest difference for me is that on a twisty road I enjoy pushing the Carrera S more than the Turbo. The speeds you can get up to in the turbo are nuts and I end up using way less throttle which to me is less enjoyable. That is purely a personal preference though and I'm sure there are others that have no problem pushing the Turbos to their limit, I simply don't have the skill or courage to do that
#36
Racer
Don't get wrapped around the axle with the X5M. I'm not comparing that to a 911, that is preposterous, but I am thinking about power/speed. I would like my sports car to feel a good bit faster than my X5M and I think a 992 C4S would accomplish that, I know a 991.2 TTS would. I was thinking 4s because there are a few on lots near me and that is what I test drove. I could see all wheel drive coming in handy as I drive through all kinds of weather, long distances, snow, mountains, heavy rain. The C4S felt like a rear wheel drive car to me and I was able to whip the *** out whenever I wanted to. I like going fast in a straight line too, and all wheel drive helps with that. Do you think the C2S is a better choice than C4S?
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jukedogg (05-19-2020)
#37
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Don't get wrapped around the axle with the X5M. I'm not comparing that to a 911, that is preposterous, but I am thinking about power/speed. I would like my sports car to feel a good bit faster than my X5M and I think a 992 C4S would accomplish that, I know a 991.2 TTS would. I was thinking 4s because there are a few on lots near me and that is what I test drove. I could see all wheel drive coming in handy as I drive through all kinds of weather, long distances, snow, mountains, heavy rain. The C4S felt like a rear wheel drive car to me and I was able to whip the *** out whenever I wanted to. I like going fast in a straight line too, and all wheel drive helps with that. Do you think the C2S is a better choice than C4S?
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jukedogg (05-19-2020)
#38
The biggest difference for me is that on a twisty road I enjoy pushing the Carrera S more than the Turbo. The speeds you can get up to in the turbo are nuts and I end up using way less throttle which to me is less enjoyable. That is purely a personal preference though and I'm sure there are others that have no problem pushing the Turbos to their limit, I simply don't have the skill or courage to do that
The 991 Turbo is faster than the 992 C4S I have, no question, but I will guarantee you I'm faster in the C4S and my lap times are lower.
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jukedogg (05-19-2020)
#39
I'm in the same boat, new to Porsche and still don't own one, but I have made my mind up, I will own a 911 within the next year. I can't decide if I should get a new 992 Carrera 4S or a lightly used 991.2 TTS. I drove the 992 C4S and I loved it, but I'm not sure if it is going to feel fast enough since I've got a new X5M Competition on order and it'll haul *** for what it is. I know the driving dynamics of any Porsche are going to completely demolish the X5M. I'm not comparing a SAV with a 911, but I am comparing straight line speed/power. If I get into the 992 after driving the X5M and don't feel like I'm going much faster, I could see myself wishing I had the 991.2 TTS, but I won't know for sure until I get the X5M and I have no idea when that will happen...guessing October. I haven't driven a 991.2 TTS, hopefully I remedy that soon. I think the total cost of ownership is going to be lower in a lightly used 991.2 TTS, unless I break a ceramic rotor. I could be wrong, once the 992 TTS comes out, the value of the 991.2's may tank. The entire time I was driving the 992 C4S I was smiling, so it probably is fast enough....maybe I just answered my own question, maybe not. Maybe this should be a poll? I'm not sure how to set that up, but I'd be curious to see how many people would go 992 C4S vs 991.2 TTS
The M5 is objectively as fast, or faster than the 992 and yet the 992 feels like the faster car to me. It might have something to do with the dynamics of the 992 -- less body roll, more immediate turn in, much better steering feel, far superior transmission in the PDK. The entire package feels harder and more immediate. The engine feels more responsive with less lag and the power feels more immediately accessible.
The BMW transmission programming is less aggressive in Sport mode and unusable in the more aggressive modes. Shifting, though impressive, is still a mushy automatic compared to PDK.
I have never once felt that I was making a parallel move, and definitely not a downgrade, when it comes to performance. It's been a complete upgrade in every respect. I really don't think you'll regret the 992 in comparison to an X5M which will be softer, slower and more boaty than the M5 Comp I traded in.
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To be honest I think I’m left more confused than before. There are advantages and disadvantages to both...I have driven both...my perceptions:
Both interiors are nice places to be, although I do prefer the newer 992’s interior.
Steering feedback is better in the 992.
Raw visceral driving feel will go the the 991.2 TTS
Exterior looks will go to the 992 for me.
Value for money would go the the 991.2 TTS as I expect the 992 to depreciate drastically in its first 3 years.
My head says 991.2 TTS....my heart, my desire is for the newer car...they say you shouldn’t ever buy a sports car with your head...because ultimately it’s about how they make you feel...but at the current new car prices I can’t simply make decisions hap hazard....
For a little more than a well specced 991.2 CS you’re in used Ferrari 458 territory...but then where do you stop?
This Covid Lockdown is somewhat of a blessing to my indecisive mind....I still need more time...
Both interiors are nice places to be, although I do prefer the newer 992’s interior.
Steering feedback is better in the 992.
Raw visceral driving feel will go the the 991.2 TTS
Exterior looks will go to the 992 for me.
Value for money would go the the 991.2 TTS as I expect the 992 to depreciate drastically in its first 3 years.
My head says 991.2 TTS....my heart, my desire is for the newer car...they say you shouldn’t ever buy a sports car with your head...because ultimately it’s about how they make you feel...but at the current new car prices I can’t simply make decisions hap hazard....
For a little more than a well specced 991.2 CS you’re in used Ferrari 458 territory...but then where do you stop?
This Covid Lockdown is somewhat of a blessing to my indecisive mind....I still need more time...
The 991.2 TTS feels very clinical.
As digital as the 992 is and has become, it is still more visceral than a 991 TTS.
#41
I am pretty sure that I would be faster in my turbo than my 992 on the track. It's no slouch around corners. The differences are nuanced, not extremes. I love them both.
"Even though it's not a track car, the 991.2 Turbo S comes pretty close to matching a GT3"
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...s-nurburgring/
"Even though it's not a track car, the 991.2 Turbo S comes pretty close to matching a GT3"
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...s-nurburgring/
#42
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Don't get wrapped around the axle with the X5M. I'm not comparing that to a 911, that is preposterous, but I am thinking about power/speed. I would like my sports car to feel a good bit faster than my X5M and I think a 992 C4S would accomplish that, I know a 991.2 TTS would. I was thinking 4s because there are a few on lots near me and that is what I test drove. I could see all wheel drive coming in handy as I drive through all kinds of weather, long distances, snow, mountains, heavy rain. The C4S felt like a rear wheel drive car to me and I was able to whip the *** out whenever I wanted to. I like going fast in a straight line too, and all wheel drive helps with that. Do you think the C2S is a better choice than C4S?
I could see someone going 992 if they absolutely love the new looks, or the steering, or the Mondo freak center screen for Johnny Carson re-runs, ...I kid, they're both great. Just beware of the nubbin!!
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msile (05-20-2020)
#43
Race Car
I am pretty sure that I would be faster in my turbo than my 992. It's no slouch around corners. The differences are nuanced, not extremes. I love them both.
"Even though it's not a track car, the 991.2 Turbo S comes pretty close to matching a GT3"
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...s-nurburgring/
"Even though it's not a track car, the 991.2 Turbo S comes pretty close to matching a GT3"
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...s-nurburgring/
Not to mention on the street the TTS packs the best punch of all.