992 CS or 991.2 Turbo S
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Originally Posted by Dan Nagy
This must be trolling. Any owner of a 991.2 that drives a 992 will be smacked in the face with the improved driving dynamics. Of course, all of the owners here that have traded their cars, and all of the experts could be wrong. Lol.
The 992 is an awesome car but it is not a 991.2 TTS does not mean it is not right for you.
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Outlaw (05-17-2020)
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Not really, and my sentiments on layers of chassis comfort are not alone. And not a fan of electronic steering.
Peak torque coming on @2300 rpm vs 1600 makes car lazy on street. Carreras are clearly undertuned and that will be addressed in GTS and turbo, so weary of manufacturers tuning software for big $$$.
Just calling it as I see it and feel it, draw whatever conclusions you want.
Peak torque coming on @2300 rpm vs 1600 makes car lazy on street. Carreras are clearly undertuned and that will be addressed in GTS and turbo, so weary of manufacturers tuning software for big $$$.
Just calling it as I see it and feel it, draw whatever conclusions you want.
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I have both cars. The 991.2 Turbo is a beast. Period. It does everything well while being comfortable. Zero squeaks and rattles (unlike my 992). Also love the interior. To me it does not look dated as others have stated (perhaps it is better appointed). The 992 is the daily. It's a great daily. The steering is sharper (not by much in regular driving) and the pdk is better (not by much again). The tech is definitely better when it works (door handle, sunroof, garage door opener, programmable buttons). I drove both the standard Carrera and the S extensively and settled for the standard (spent the rest in options) as I loved the engine response and being able to wring out the engine more and also because I already have a fast car. I would go for the best bang for the buck. Having said all this the 996 turbo is the most fun for me ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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On the 992 I am not loving:
Quality control issues
Rear end
Tachometer
Nubbin
Random keyless go door handle behavior
I do love the rear fenders and front fenders though. Plenty to work with.
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Driving 991.2 and 992 back to back, surprised at lack of steering and chassis feedback on 992. Finally succumbing to the lemmings on comfort a lot like M series BMW. Maybe GTS brings it back.
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I am pretty sure the 991 had electric steering (correct me if I'm wrong) I feel the steering is much better on the 992 but that could also be partly due to the 991.1 was 4wd. Also the turbos in the past have always been larger on the GTS and turbo models and some have complained they are a bit more laggy. I do feel like since the 992 has a smaller motor and turbos than my 991.1 turbo did, it seems more responsive, especially around town. This could also be due to the new 8 speed PDK is geared lower in first.
If the complaint is about size and chassis dynamics - it's a little ironic to compare to the Turbo since that's a big, heavier AWD car with more lag. Still fun, but more of a brutal, blunt instrument IMO.
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Not really, and my sentiments on layers of chassis comfort are not alone. And not a fan of electronic steering.
Peak torque coming on @2300 rpm vs 1600 makes car lazy on street. Carreras are clearly undertuned and that will be addressed in GTS and turbo, so weary of manufacturers tuning software for big $$$.
Just calling it as I see it and feel it, draw whatever conclusions you want.
Peak torque coming on @2300 rpm vs 1600 makes car lazy on street. Carreras are clearly undertuned and that will be addressed in GTS and turbo, so weary of manufacturers tuning software for big $$$.
Just calling it as I see it and feel it, draw whatever conclusions you want.
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The steering on my 992 is beyond amazing...not sure how anyone could drive a 991 vs a 992 and come up with anything not glowing about the 992 in comparison, unless you're in an 911r...
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AlexCeres (05-18-2020)
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Originally Posted by Dan Nagy
Sorry, but this was the post:
Driving 991.2 and 992 back to back, surprised at lack of steering and chassis feedback on 992. Finally succumbing to the lemmings on comfort a lot like M series BMW. Maybe GTS brings it back.
Driving 991.2 and 992 back to back, surprised at lack of steering and chassis feedback on 992. Finally succumbing to the lemmings on comfort a lot like M series BMW. Maybe GTS brings it back.
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Yep, and I was commenting on the post that was made, and stand on my comments. Lol.
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Dan Nagy (05-18-2020)
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Not really, and my sentiments on layers of chassis comfort are not alone. And not a fan of electronic steering.
Peak torque coming on @2300 rpm vs 1600 makes car lazy on street. Carreras are clearly undertuned and that will be addressed in GTS and turbo, so weary of manufacturers tuning software for big $$$.
Just calling it as I see it and feel it, draw whatever conclusions you want.
Peak torque coming on @2300 rpm vs 1600 makes car lazy on street. Carreras are clearly undertuned and that will be addressed in GTS and turbo, so weary of manufacturers tuning software for big $$$.
Just calling it as I see it and feel it, draw whatever conclusions you want.
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rk-d (05-18-2020)
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I'm in the same boat, new to Porsche and still don't own one, but I have made my mind up, I will own a 911 within the next year. I can't decide if I should get a new 992 Carrera 4S or a lightly used 991.2 TTS. I drove the 992 C4S and I loved it, but I'm not sure if it is going to feel fast enough since I've got a new X5M Competition on order and it'll haul *** for what it is. I know the driving dynamics of any Porsche are going to completely demolish the X5M. I'm not comparing a SAV with a 911, but I am comparing straight line speed/power. If I get into the 992 after driving the X5M and don't feel like I'm going much faster, I could see myself wishing I had the 991.2 TTS, but I won't know for sure until I get the X5M and I have no idea when that will happen...guessing October. I haven't driven a 991.2 TTS, hopefully I remedy that soon. I think the total cost of ownership is going to be lower in a lightly used 991.2 TTS, unless I break a ceramic rotor. I could be wrong, once the 992 TTS comes out, the value of the 991.2's may tank. The entire time I was driving the 992 C4S I was smiling, so it probably is fast enough....maybe I just answered my own question, maybe not. Maybe this should be a poll? I'm not sure how to set that up, but I'd be curious to see how many people would go 992 C4S vs 991.2 TTS
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I'm in the same boat, new to Porsche and still don't own one, but I have made my mind up, I will own a 911 within the next year. I can't decide if I should get a new 992 Carrera 4S or a lightly used 991.2 TTS. I drove the 992 C4S and I loved it, but I'm not sure if it is going to feel fast enough since I've got a new X5M Competition on order and it'll haul *** for what it is. I know the driving dynamics of any Porsche are going to completely demolish the X5M. I'm not comparing a SAV with a 911, but I am comparing straight line speed/power. If I get into the 992 after driving the X5M and don't feel like I'm going much faster, I could see myself wishing I had the 991.2 TTS, but I won't know for sure until I get the X5M and I have no idea when that will happen...guessing October. I haven't driven a 991.2 TTS, hopefully I remedy that soon. I think the total cost of ownership is going to be lower in a lightly used 991.2 TTS, unless I break a ceramic rotor. I could be wrong, once the 992 TTS comes out, the value of the 991.2's may tank. The entire time I was driving the 992 C4S I was smiling, so it probably is fast enough....maybe I just answered my own question, maybe not. Maybe this should be a poll? I'm not sure how to set that up, but I'd be curious to see how many people would go 992 C4S vs 991.2 TTS
Good luck--you'll love whichever you end up with!