ipse dixit

The 991 GT2 RS is no waif in the weight department. It comes it at ~3300 lbs.

GrantG

I’m sure it’s a good deal more in reality. My light GT3 build is nearly that much on race scales...

chance6

Curb weight of the 991.2 TTS is 3528 lbs. I know they quote weight differently now BUT the 992 IS heavier. And the 992 TTS may be a bigger delta because dammit we're dealing with wide wide bodies here.

A car weighing 3650 lb is not a who cares over a car that weighs 3153 lb. Yep TTS cars are great but they have some pork.

Penn4S

3550 for my TTS. No ballerina. But dances like one.

911-TOUR

My 993 was smaller than my buddies mini cooper...

Only way I see to make 991/992 size cars go sub 3K lbs is to move the monocoque to Carbon Fiber...oh so much want.

cheers!

XrussianX

Weight can be good if the chassis and driver can use it to their advantage with weight transfer. Watch some rally drivers if you want to see a great example. The problem is still in the fact that all this weight numbs out the feedback. Basically you have to push the car harder to get a similar rush. But like others have said Porsche isn’t just adding weight to make the cars heavier. It’s the demands of the gov and customers wanting options. Buy an older car if lighter weight is your flavor. I personally can’t wait to see what these 992’s will do compared to the competition. In Porsche we trust

Argon_

The small offset crash test makes a narrow car exceedingly difficult to certify, with a metal chassis at least. It could be built of carbon, 73RS sized, with 400 N/A horsepower.

XrussianX

carbon body would have to be the next step in order to save weight. Carbon is 1.5 times lighter than aluminum by volume. That sounds like a substantial weight saving to be had. But at what cost? Not many would she’ll out $300k+ for a 911 Turbo

detansinn

The shift to a carbon fiber monocoque would be a big deal and huge change for the 911.
I have driven cars with carbon fiber tubs and my 992 C4S currently shares the garage with such a car. Over the past two generations, the 911 has evolved into a luxury GT that also happens to be an amazing sports car that can even play pretend supercar. From my experience, it's going to be very difficult for Porsche to deliver those luxury GT qualities with a stiff carbon fiber tub. Much of the potential weight savings would likely be offset with soundproofing/deadening material added all over the car.

Does that mean that it will never happen? Not necessarily, but I don't think that we will see a 911 from Porsche with a carbon fiber monocoque until the car goes full EV. With the engine gone, there's less noise and vibration to deal with.
Yes, I am aware that Ruf sells a "911" with a carbon fiber tub, but that car is no luxury GT.

ipse dixit

A 911 will never have a carbon monocoque, at least not in the same way a McLaren has a carbon monocoque.

FORENN

If that's the case, then the 992 should weigh about the same as the 997 (which is widely considered one of the best 911 generations ever), as the 991 was a little lighter than the 997 when it was introduced. Just pointing this out for some historic perspective.

captainkirk

This is the car I am going for. It doesn't have the fugly third wart red light; and I guess I will have to be okay with tiny gear selector.

Now if they fix the 992.2 cosmetically for GTS - then I will be in dilemma.

Sunny_M3

Do you mean...boost pressure

frankchn

Autocar came out with an article today that mentions that the Turbo will be launched at Geneva, but they are quoting 620 hp for the TTS and 570 hp for the TT. It will be interesting to see where the final power figures land.

chance6

Geneva sounds right...the 997 TTS had 530 hp, went to 560 in 991.1 TTS. The 620 hp may actually be right!

And the 570 hp for TT makes sense- 10 hp below current TTS, which is what they did when the 991.1 debuted (520 vs. 530).