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Old 01-24-2020, 02:16 PM
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Stop wasting your salespersons time. You reneged on a deal. He doesn't want to "chat" with you. He has work to do. He has cars to sell, including the one you ordered. Call them today and man-up.
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Old 01-24-2020, 02:40 PM
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I would be honest. I think they should return your deposit. Would you be ok if they held your deposit until they sell the car to someone else?
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Old 01-24-2020, 02:42 PM
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So what's the worst case here - you lose your deposit. That's a bummer. But on the flip side, think about how much money you are saving by not buying a brand new Porsche.

In the meantime you move to NYC, start an awesome new job. In a couple of years, once you're settled in, you can buy the same car with under 10K miles on it at a huge discount.

See - I'm an optimist - always looking at the bright side
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Old 01-24-2020, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Thinc2
So what's the worst case here - you lose your deposit. That's a bummer. But on the flip side, think about how much money you are saving by not buying a brand new Porsche.

In the meantime you move to NYC, start an awesome new job. In a couple of years, once you're settled in, you can buy the same car with under 10K miles on it at a huge discount.

See - I'm an optimist - always looking at the bright side
You’re right, I appreciate the positivity!

Worst case I’m out the 10k for the deposit, they lose a customer for life and we all move on.

Hope he will sell the car very soon as well, there are very few here in Toronto and I hope someone appreciates the spec as much as me.

Will definitely jump at the chance to wait for it to be sold if they choose to refund me. That’s definitely okay to me as well.

Will keep you guys posted if you’d like!
Old 01-24-2020, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Thinc2
So what's the worst case here - you lose your deposit. That's a bummer. But on the flip side, think about how much money you are saving by not buying a brand new Porsche.

In the meantime you move to NYC, start an awesome new job. In a couple of years, once you're settled in, you can buy the same car with under 10K miles on it at a huge discount.

See - I'm an optimist - always looking at the bright side
^ This is the right attitude and perspective. Plus all the money you saved can be used at all the fantastic NYC restaurants (without all the stress of driving and finding parking).
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:01 PM
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I don't know guys. I wouldn't blow off $10k. That's nuts. You might as well buy it and sell it right back to them for a $5k loss!

(Assuming you couldn't get your deposit back, which I personally doubt)
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:04 PM
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Similar thing happened to me.

I ordered a new 2016 Turbo and when it arrived I wasn't able to take delivery of it.

I was honest with the dealership and subsequently lost my deposit, but I had to do what I had to do and I understood their position and moved on.

Two years later I order and take delivery of a new 2018 C4 GTS from the same dealership and they honor my original deposit from the 2016 car and apply it to the new car as a discount.

So it seemed bad at first, but worked itself out in the end, which I'm happy about.

So moral of the story is to be honest and upfront and then the universe has a way of making things balance out in the end.

Wayne.
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:04 PM
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In 2013 I ordered a Boxster S in the then-new Rhodium Silver, which no-one had ever seen in the flesh. When the car arrived, It was clear that it had blue undertones (should have just gone GT Silver but at that time is was a $3500 option). Sales manager could see my disappointment and offered to unwind the deal; got me into a 911 GTS and sold the Cayman in less than 24 hours.

It's a small Porsche community in Canada, and the dealers know that we buyers talk to each other. I'd be surprised if they didn't willingly refund your deposit, as it costs them nothing and the car will undoubtedly sell. To do otherwise would risk them getting a bad rep in the community in pretty short order, and buyers ordering/shopping elsewhere.
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
I don't know guys. I wouldn't blow off $10k. That's nuts. You might as well buy it and sell it right back to them for a $5k loss!

(Assuming you couldn't get your deposit back, which I personally doubt)
that won’t work. If he buys it, and tries to sell it back to the dealership the next day... they will offer $30k less. It’s now a registered and used car.

life happens and sometimes people need to walk away from ordered cars. The dealership is likely to refund the money. It’s a new model and a conservative spec. The car will sell. I’m sure they are more worried about getting rid of 2019 inventory. so I would approach it with a positive attitude first. If they are resistant to returning the deposit, I would suggest they hold it until the car is sold. Only after both of those strategies fail would I look for other options.
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WBimmer
Similar thing happened to me.

I ordered a new 2016 Turbo and when it arrived I wasn't able to take delivery of it.

I was honest with the dealership and subsequently lost my deposit, but I had to do what I had to do and I understood their position and moved on.

Two years later I order and take delivery of a new 2018 C4 GTS from the same dealership and they honor my original deposit from the 2016 car and apply it to the new car as a discount.

So it seemed bad at first, but worked itself out in the end, which I'm happy about.

So moral of the story is to be honest and upfront and then the universe has a way of making things balance out in the end.

Wayne.
Same dealer that let me unwind the Boxster (which MSRP was about half that of a 911 Turbo, so easier to do lol). Rolling your deposit later into a discount on a C4 GTS is a class move; that's how you build customer loyalty. And here we both are online, talking about our respective positive experiences at a specific dealer.

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Old 01-24-2020, 03:15 PM
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Assume you've researched the law in your area. In some states in the U.S. dealers can't keep your deposit so all of this would be moot.
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rhr992c4s
that won’t work. If he buys it, and tries to sell it back to the dealership the next day... they will offer $30k less. It’s now a registered and used car.

life happens and sometimes people need to walk away from ordered cars. The dealership is likely to refund the money. It’s a new model and a conservative spec. The car will sell. I’m sure they are more worried about getting rid of 2019 inventory. so I would approach it with a positive attitude first. If they are resistant to returning the deposit, I would suggest they hold it until the car is sold. Only after both of those strategies fail would I look for other options.
I was mostly being facetious.

No way you're losing $30k with zero on the clock. But that's neither here nor there.

I think it's all moot. I'm fairly certain they'll refund the deposit and easily move that car.
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:35 PM
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I actually think the 30k number is probably pretty accurate. Dealer invoice is probably 20k below MSRP. If the dealer can get another new from Porsche for 20k less, what do you think they will buy a registered one for? The warranty is ticking.
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Old 01-24-2020, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by clutchplate
Assume you've researched the law in your area. In some states in the U.S. dealers can't keep your deposit so all of this would be moot.
This is actually true in almost all states in the US. I'm surprised that consumer protection laws would be weaker in Canada, tut I have no reference point to be sure.
Old 01-24-2020, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rhr992c4s
I actually think the 30k number is probably pretty accurate. Dealer invoice is probably 20k below MSRP. If the dealer can get another new from Porsche for 20k less, what do you think they will buy a registered one for? The warranty is ticking.
plus the taxes he paid on the car... I'm not sure how much the tax is in Ontario but Quebec is 15%. they're not giving him the taxes back if he buys it...


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