New Owner Review - Drive, Features & Options
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TMA - is your color jet black metallic or standard black? Just wondering.. if it’s metallic, do the color matched inlays stand out over the piano black or does it blend without noticing the metallic?
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Jet Black. Yes there's a small difference between the metallic and piano finishes but its barely noticable and only around the cupholder area where both meet.
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jkautz (12-22-2019)
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Love it. One issue though ... you don't get the matching leather on the middle part around the crest like you do with the regular wheel. Bummed about that since my interior is grey (would've worked nicely) but it would probably look ugly with other leather colors hence the standard black center.
OP, nice ride. Enjoy it, and thanks for the write up!
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I do have to say, for all of the PDK brilliance, you're not going to make good use of what this motor can put down if you're driving it around in automatic mode. Like every automatic, the PDK isn't immune from making some brain dead gear choices and it will will rev hang under some of the dumbest conditions. For cruising around in stop-n-go traffic, etc, it's great, but if it's "go time", hit that M button and use the paddles.
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Originally Posted by PopPorscheCherry
Very nice indeed...Thanks for the owner's perspective! What are your thoughts coming from 4S to 2S. Do you feel any differences in performance?
I struggled with this for a few weeks and then chose the 2S with zero regrets. Test drive them back to back before you decide which is what I did.
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PopPorscheCherry (12-23-2019)
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UPDATE
Some thoughts on SPASM ... much better than previous generation. Though it's lower than standard, the way they designed the new front lip allows for better entry on speed bumps. On the same speed bumps as a 991.2 GTS I find it to not scrape at all and there's almost no wheel to arch friction when you take a speed bump too fast. You really do feel the new springs' wider range of motion so you get the benefit of comfort without compromising performance. Having said that, it sounds and feels harsher going over road imperfections at speed so it really depends on where you'll be driving it.
Some thoughts on SPASM ... much better than previous generation. Though it's lower than standard, the way they designed the new front lip allows for better entry on speed bumps. On the same speed bumps as a 991.2 GTS I find it to not scrape at all and there's almost no wheel to arch friction when you take a speed bump too fast. You really do feel the new springs' wider range of motion so you get the benefit of comfort without compromising performance. Having said that, it sounds and feels harsher going over road imperfections at speed so it really depends on where you'll be driving it.
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992Sam (12-23-2019)
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Congrats! I've been following yours too (Yellow dials right?)
Yeah I know. It's a niggle not a major issue. But it does feel in this day and age that they could've executed better. The CarPlay thing is really pissing me off though. I don't have big fingers and I still struggle to hit the right icon.
Yeah I know. It's a niggle not a major issue. But it does feel in this day and age that they could've executed better. The CarPlay thing is really pissing me off though. I don't have big fingers and I still struggle to hit the right icon.
Having the same PCM setup in my '19 Cayenne I totally agree with your opinion that the UX could have been better. Fidgeting to get CarPlay running while driving can be dangerous as you try to hit (and inevitably miss) the icon either on the left stack or top bar. Don't know if most owners are using it, but I would have preferred to have a dedicated CarPlay button in the car even since its the first thing I hook up
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Lol why are you even on the 992 subforum Drifting... if you have nothing nice to say..... & many different perspectives too. Have you driven the 992?
Turbo lag in the 3.0 after your 4.0 I'm sure is noticeable, but drive a 570S or other more traditional turbo engine car and you may realize that there is little to no turbo lag in the 992 comparatively
Same with my experience in the Ferrari 488. Drive it and you feel no turbo lag, in fact it picks up quicker than the NA 3.8L in my 50th by a significant margin for response time. Then compared to my Speciale, I noticed the fraction of a second in lag in the 488
All just depends on where you are coming from, and for sure not all turbo engines are created equal!
Turbo lag in the 3.0 after your 4.0 I'm sure is noticeable, but drive a 570S or other more traditional turbo engine car and you may realize that there is little to no turbo lag in the 992 comparatively
Same with my experience in the Ferrari 488. Drive it and you feel no turbo lag, in fact it picks up quicker than the NA 3.8L in my 50th by a significant margin for response time. Then compared to my Speciale, I noticed the fraction of a second in lag in the 488
All just depends on where you are coming from, and for sure not all turbo engines are created equal!
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Lol why are you even on the 992 subforum Drifting... if you have nothing nice to say..... & many different perspectives too. Have you driven the 992?
Turbo lag in the 3.0 after your 4.0 I'm sure is noticeable, but drive a 570S or other more traditional turbo engine car and you may realize that there is little to no turbo lag in the 992 comparatively
Same with my experience in the Ferrari 488. Drive it and you feel no turbo lag, in fact it picks up quicker than the NA 3.8L in my 50th by a significant margin for response time. Then compared to my Speciale, I noticed the fraction of a second in lag in the 488
All just depends on where you are coming from, and for sure not all turbo engines are created equal!
Turbo lag in the 3.0 after your 4.0 I'm sure is noticeable, but drive a 570S or other more traditional turbo engine car and you may realize that there is little to no turbo lag in the 992 comparatively
Same with my experience in the Ferrari 488. Drive it and you feel no turbo lag, in fact it picks up quicker than the NA 3.8L in my 50th by a significant margin for response time. Then compared to my Speciale, I noticed the fraction of a second in lag in the 488
All just depends on where you are coming from, and for sure not all turbo engines are created equal!
Have you driven the 992?
Your Ferrari 488 is special and was the first turbo on the market to be basically lag free, because Ferrari took the time, effort, and money to make it so. They also put a lot of R & D into the sound of the car. The 488 and its successors are the only turbo cars I would consider, largely for those reasons. Truly the best of both worlds.
Porsche has not done that with the 991.2 or 992, which I have driven and although they have less lag than many turbo cars, but they are nowhere near the almost lag free experience of the 488. That's why I laughed as all the new 992 owners complimented themselves on their lag free car, because turbo drivers have been bragging about not having lag in their new car of different makes for the past decade, but only Ferrari has delivered the goods.
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I check the 992 forum from time to time until the mods finally make a dedicated 992 GT car forum, which hopefully will be soon.
Have you driven the 992?
Your Ferrari 488 is special and was the first turbo on the market to be basically lag free, because Ferrari took the time, effort, and money to make it so. They also put a lot of R & D into the sound of the car. The 488 and its successors are the only turbo cars I would consider, largely for those reasons. Truly the best of both worlds.
Porsche has not done that with the 991.2 or 992, which I have driven and although they have less lag than many turbo cars, but they are nowhere near the almost lag free experience of the 488. That's why I laughed as all the new 992 owners complimented themselves on their lag free car, because turbo drivers have been bragging about not having lag in their new car of different makes for the past decade, but only Ferrari has delivered the goods.
Have you driven the 992?
Your Ferrari 488 is special and was the first turbo on the market to be basically lag free, because Ferrari took the time, effort, and money to make it so. They also put a lot of R & D into the sound of the car. The 488 and its successors are the only turbo cars I would consider, largely for those reasons. Truly the best of both worlds.
Porsche has not done that with the 991.2 or 992, which I have driven and although they have less lag than many turbo cars, but they are nowhere near the almost lag free experience of the 488. That's why I laughed as all the new 992 owners complimented themselves on their lag free car, because turbo drivers have been bragging about not having lag in their new car of different makes for the past decade, but only Ferrari has delivered the goods.
As far as the 991.2, I can only speak for it in C4 guise with the base 3.0. That engine had such little turbo lag that even if it did, it felt less "laggy" than its 991.1 3.8L NA predecessor from a standstill (which I now have). I think perspective again is everything, noting now that turbo engines today are not the turbo engines of old for what it's worth... If you come from .2 GT3 into a 991.2 or 992 you will probably feel a smidge of lag, but nowhere near the same lag as in TurboS or 570S or another wait for it 1.7 seconds later hold on for dear life boost turbo car. Porsche managed to make the turbo surge more linear/progressive and react much faster not unlike what Ferrari did with the 488 engine in my opinion (but of course not to the same extent)
As for sound that's different and even more subjective, I love 991.2 sound more than 991.1 sound in some ways (I had PSE)