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Old 12-10-2019 | 03:40 PM
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This is my first post here. With that being said, if this is in the incorrect area, please advise. I am looking to get into a 2020 Carrera this month but wanted to see if you folks had any advice for a (hopeful) first time Porsche owner. Any advice on how to negotiate a good price? Looking to lease, but would consider purchasing if it makes more sense. I guess i'm just trying to get any advice you folks may have. I've never tried buying a car at this price. My credit is excellent, just dont know what else to try to look into. I was told to focus on MONEY FACTOR? Watched some youtube videos on this but still not too confident. Obviously looking for a good deal but just dont know how to get one lol. Any advice would be MUCH appreciated. Thank you so much in advance!
Old 12-10-2019 | 04:01 PM
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Don’t lease a car. Ever. It’s like renting. The most expensive way to own a vehicle.
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Originally Posted by GoTime
Don’t lease a car. Ever. It’s like renting. The most expensive way to own a vehicle.
Especially on a 992.

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Old 12-10-2019 | 04:18 PM
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I wouldn't say to never lease a car but definitely don't lease a 911. You will literally be throwing away tens of thousands of dollars. Purchase it.
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Old 12-10-2019 | 05:06 PM
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While many luxury makes, such as BMW, Mercedes, Aston Martin, etc, subsidize their leases. Porsche does not.
Under the right circumstances, leasing those cars can be a banging deal, but leasing a Porsche 911 is a poor financial decision and expensive exercise.

Interest rates are spectacularly low right now. Put that excellent credit to work. Smarter than paying for it in cash.

Of course, if you live outside of the United States, there are other reasons that can make a lease compelling despite the money burning aspect. For example, countries like Canada have brutal taxes on luxury cars and leasing allows you to avoid some of that pain.
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Agreed with others above. There are plenty of circumstances where a lease can actually make sense (I bought a Landrover LR4 and it was cheaper for me to lease it and excercise the buyout at the end than it was to finance it and purchase up front).

Those circumstances won't happen with a 911. 911 is a car you buy unless something changes with the Porsche lease programs.
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Originally Posted by detansinn
While many luxury makes, such as BMW, Mercedes, Aston Martin, etc, subsidize their leases. Porsche does not.
Under the right circumstances, leasing those cars can be a banging deal, but leasing a Porsche 911 is a poor financial decision and expensive exercise.

Interest rates are spectacularly low right now. Put that excellent credit to work. Smarter than paying for it in cash.

Of course, if you live outside of the United States, there are other reasons that can make a lease compelling despite the money burning aspect. For example, countries like Canada have brutal taxes on luxury cars and leasing allows you to avoid some of that pain.
Really reallyyyyy appreciate this advice! Thank you so much. I am going to see a couple dealerships today, so this is exactly what I needed to hear. To be brutally honest, I just want this car so bad and i figured a lease is usually cheaper as a monthly payment. But i am used to owning hondas (dont laugh). And those auto makers you mentioned; BMW MB, etc.. they advertise their leases so loud and proud that I just assumed leasing a 911 is the same as leasing a high end BMW... obviously not the same, but you get what im trying to say. Really do appreciate it. Just kind of scared and dont want to make a poor financial choice. Thank you very much for the info!
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Old 12-10-2019 | 05:34 PM
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To the OP: Whether to purchase or lease is dependent on circumstances specific to you and your tax jurisdiction. There are way too many factors to consider for blanket statements to hold water. Pay no attention to what the internet says; talk with your accountant or spend some time educating yourself.
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Old 12-10-2019 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gcurnew
To the OP: Whether to purchase or lease is dependent on circumstances specific to you and your tax jurisdiction. There are way too many factors to consider for blanket statements to hold water. Pay no attention to what the internet says; talk with your accountant or spend some time educating yourself.
Absolutely. I'm just trying to get everyones opinions and advice. I appreciate everyones responses, including yours. I definitely will be speaking to my accountant and will continue educating myself. As i mentioned in the previous post; i dont want to make a poor financial decision and would like to continue to be able to get a porsche again in the future. Really appreciate your info. Thanks again!
Old 12-10-2019 | 07:20 PM
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Buying or leasing a 911 (at least one that is not collectible) is a poor financial decision. Your Honda was a good financial decision. But I know what you mean. You don't want to pay more to drive a 911 than you must.


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The reality is that Porsches don’t lease well. Unlike some other luxury brands (e.g. BMW) which have artificially inflated residual values and lease programs and lease cash, Porsche does not do this. Also, as you probably already know, Porsche is known for their plethora of expensive options. Once you get above a certain price point, the options don’t residualize and you’re basically paying cash for them over the lease term.

I’ve purchased over 60 news cars and countless Porsches. If you want some help, message me and I am happy to coach you on the process and review some deals and numbers.

Happy Holidays and congrats on a major lifetime achievement!
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Lease: if you own business. Write it off. Otherwise purchase the 911.
Do not over think.
If you want a car go get it. Simple. We all live once so live it well.
Experience over regret my friend
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Old 12-11-2019 | 02:41 AM
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Agreed with 95% of the posters about leasing. BMW et al are rental car companies. Once you factor at least 4-5% APR on the lease, plus the crap residual, a 992 is not a good lease. I wonder how many businesses can justify writing off a 911 for tax purposes, can't see it being many.

I researched; cash vs lease vs finance. I'm going to pay cash for most of the car and finance the rest. If you can get 3% on a loan, you can put the money you were going to put on the car in an index fund. You just have to balance risk at that point.
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Old 12-11-2019 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrera-T
The reality is that Porsches don’t lease well. Unlike some other luxury brands (e.g. BMW) which have artificially inflated residual values and lease programs and lease cash, Porsche does not do this. Also, as you probably already know, Porsche is known for their plethora of expensive options. Once you get above a certain price point, the options don’t residualize and you’re basically paying cash for them over the lease term.

I’ve purchased over 60 news cars and countless Porsches. If you want some help, message me and I am happy to coach you on the process and review some deals and numbers.

Happy Holidays and congrats on a major lifetime achievement!
Thank you!!! I clearly need some assistance..haha. I will message you. Really do appreciate it.


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