stealthpilot

Your perspective on resale is bang on target. Get the S. Or even better hold out 6 months and buy a used s with PCCB for less than your base with PCCB. There are already a few used 992s on Autotrader.

Bob Z.

Zero squeaks on my PCCBs but I did not have them on my Reds either - I bedded both sets with new pads. They are not going to chip unless you are careless, such as when mounting wheels. There is a chance a stone or something could chip them but that is not likely. My front end does feel lighter, even with stock wheels and the braking distance is a LOT better, and the feel to me is great. They are not too touchy but there is a point where they will bite and grab albeit you will get used to that real quick. Personally I cannot think of anything negative about them and I still give my SA crap every time we chat about him talking me out of them on my build...I am lucky in that I would up being real close to the ordered cost when all was said and done.

BSO

Everyone is free to spend their money in any way they desire when making a purchase.

Wrong or right isn't an issue, happiness and satisfaction are what's important.

For myself, I try to balance out what you actually need and what you want. What you want may not be what you need or even be practical.

Still comes back to being happy and satisfied.

Enjoy the process OP, good luck!

PS:
For the most part, the PTX GTS fleet has PCCBs with lugged wheels. The chief instructor explained that the PCCBs will last the same as several sets of the steel brakes, however, their costs aren't what us civilians would pay.
Several posts have been made on the forum by track drivers who state they use steel brakes due to replacement costs. I drove PCCBs this summer at PTX and they exhibited no noise or fade, but then, the steel brakes on the Cayman I drove there was also quiet with no fade. I'll there again this next week and see how they go in cooler ambient temps.

992Sam

the calipers, the discs, the hubs, and the lack of break dust.... throw in the better performance, and the near lifetime usage.. and it's the best $9K I spent on that car.

992Sam

I've had more than one person say how crazy I was to spec a 4S out to $179K but my response was simple... a) I wanted those items, and b)I can afford them... end of discussion.

rk-d

A 911 is a waste of money. It's pointless to even worry about this.

Will you get your money back on trade in? No. The PCCBs do not add value on resale. Options are a terrible "investment" in general.

Will it get you the look you want with added performance and way easier cleaning? Definitely.

Like with most things in life - If you want it and can afford it, then get it. Only you can answer the question, "Do I really want to spend $9k on this."

Personally, I'd do it. PCCBs are cool.

Porsch

Probably some of the most short-sighted/misguided advice I've read on Rennlist -- and that's saying something. There are many individuals who consider the absence of PCCBs a deal-breaker when buying a pcar. Honestly, at 9K they are a no-brainer cost option imo, try buying them after the fact and see how much they cost! And anyone who thinks PCCBs is just about their great looks is just lost.

Porsch

Trust me, most if not all of those people simply couldn't afford your spec. Jealousy is ugly but it sure is rampant among sportscar enthusiasts!

ipse dixit

And, in particular, especially rampant among sportscar enthusiasts here on Rennlist.

sampelligrino

I'd get only exactly what you want if you have the privilege of doing your own spec, not what may or may not make the most financial sense. Never really understood that line of thinking buying a brand new luxury car that will take a decent hit the moment you drive off the lot regardless, just go for what your heart wants that's why we buy these things

I ordered a base C4 and also upgraded the wheels to the 20/21 setup (love the Carrera classic style on 992). The smaller-ish brakes in the larger wheels don't bother me, I had the 20' RS Spyder wheels on base brakes for my 991.2 C4 as well

Brake dust does suck with the standard brakes or the S reds, and I would have opted for PCCB for my 992 C4 if it was my only sports car but I already have another with ceramics so I wanted to keep my C4 build as bare as possible (and still had over 20k in options). The stopping power and bite is unreal, they look killer, and no brake dust which is very nice

YMMV

njcycleguy

And your post may be the most irresponsible comment I've read here on Rennlist. PCCBs are a "no-brainer" option? Care to share your ownership experience to base that statement on? And whose brain are we discussing, YOURS or MINE?

As the OP points out in his initial post, his concern is a balance of spec/price goals, but as evident by the remainder of his points, pricing and value are more of a concern. He already knows the right answer, he just wants confirmation that it's the right one. So.. to that point, and to clarify my original point (and since some of you are so easily triggered by the term 'waste of money' and PCCBs in the same sentence), I will assure you that on resale or trade-in, which is what most derive value from, a base 911 with PCCBs will not be worth more than one without - I think that point has been pretty well made in this thread. It makes more financial sense to purchase an S without PCCBs than a base car with PCCBs which the OP already knows as more value is derived from the $8k being put towards the S, especially at trade-in time.

In terms of real-world performance and experience, I've owned several 911s and a few GT3s. I've never felt the PCCBs have warranted the cost. I've had better pedal feel and performance with my non-PCCB cars - and the benefit of no squeaks. On resale, buyers never pointed out the cars had PCCBs, nor were they deciding factors when purchasing. That said, I will agree that GT3s with PCCBs may be more desirable than one without (even though they didn't affect my personal sales), but GT3s are significantly different cars than base 911s, both from a performance and market perspective. Again, I'm speaking from real-world, first hand experience as an owner, not a speculator.

I think the point here is that we are all free to express our opinions on what options work for us - and what don't - and we do that with our wallet. Different strokes for different folks. I think the OP has enough opinions now, along with links to other threads, to make an educated decision as to what will work from him.

Bob Z.

Let us know what you decide WCE.

iliveoncaffiene

I'm in the camp that would LOVE PCCB on my cars. But if it was between PCCB base and non-PCCB 'S' (budget restricting, I couldn't have both)? I agree: it'd be S all day and twice on Sunday. I'd much rather have the better model than PCCB.

jkautz

I’d rather get a PCCB base and spend $3k on a tune and push 470+ HP without mods. About 30HP more than an S for $13k less

Airbus Raider

I ordered this set, also PCCB but much cheaper