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Double checked....Drove my 991.2 today and I can see all the gauges sitting in driving position. No blockage like the 992 I sat in today. My 993 had no blockage either so I could see all the gauges....so 992 an issue for me with visibility of all gauges from driving position...
Double checked....Drove my 991.2 today and I can see all the gauges sitting in driving position. No blockage like the 992 I sat in today. My 993 had no blockage either so I could see all the gauges....so 992 an issue for me with visibility of all gauges from driving position...
i agree. I’m 6’3” never experienced obscured instruments on 997 or 991.
It is not a ‘problem’ in the 992 but it is a peculiar decision. The change isn’t an improvement.
I am sure Porsche is aware of the criticism of the obstructed gauges, of the nubbin, of the door handles, of the cup holders. I would be shocked if all weren't addressed in some fashion in the 992.2.
We should expect better from Porsche. If not, they’ll continue to get away with shortcuts. This and other decisions (e.g. making the 911 have a design consistent with the rest of the lineup) may have been the VW parent company’s influence. The 992 is perhaps the first 911 that was fully designed after Piech/VW v. Porsche battle.
Well said. Before today I only sat in a 992. Today I had a test drive. After adjusting the seat and wheel to my liking, the right and left outer gauges are 100% obstructed. I’m 5’-9” perhaps if you are tall and sit farther back they will be more visible. I had the seat lowered as far as possible (as I normally do). I tried raising the wheel all the way. Didn’t help. To me, this remains a real annoyance. I just don’t understand why/how Porsche would let this get to production. As said, we should expect better from Porsche.
With 993 they aligned the 2 pm and 10 pm sections of the steering wheel with the spaces between the gauges and no blocking....with the 991 it was even more precise with the 992 the attention to detail went out the window...
Well said. Before today I only sat in a 992. Today I had a test drive. After adjusting the seat and wheel to my liking, the right and left outer gauges are 100% obstructed. I’m 5’-9” perhaps if you are tall and sit farther back they will be more visible. I had the seat lowered as far as possible (as I normally do). I tried raising the wheel all the way. Didn’t help. To me, this remains a real annoyance. I just don’t understand why/how Porsche would let this get to production. As said, we should expect better from Porsche.
With 993 they aligned the 2 pm and 10 pm sections of the steering wheel with the spaces between the gauges and no blocking....with the 991 it was even more precise with the 992 the attention to detail went out the window...
With the stock wheel, it’s true. But even a slightly smaller wheel does obscure things.
The problem, if there is one, is that steering wheels today are pretty thick with tiny diameters. It’s almost impossible to cram everything within the circumference of modern wheels.
I don’t think the 992 is that bad. The relevant information that you need at a glance is right there in the middle anyway.
I am sure Porsche is aware of the criticism of the obstructed gauges, of the nubbin, of the door handles, of the cup holders. I would be shocked if all weren't addressed in some fashion in the 992.2.
Agree...for me, it's the door handles (crazy complicated) and guages. Why you need all these guages and readouts...they seem like a sad anachronism.
Opinion of one wish list...maximum one dial with rpm and digital speed and fuel would be perfect n my view...preferably all digital, none of this physical needle nonsense. All the rest can be handled with warning lights, and time/temp, in the center sreen. Maybe then could even get rid of all dials...yes, that! Then, get rid of any nubbin or drive controller of any kind from the center console....an item that should have been left in the 20th century. That solves the cup holders among other things.
With the stock wheel, it’s true. But even a slightly smaller wheel does obscure things.
The problem, if there is one, is that steering wheels today are pretty thick with tiny diameters. It’s almost impossible to cram everything within the circumference of modern wheels.
I don’t think the 992 is that bad. The relevant information that you need at a glance is right there in the middle anyway.
I agree. Not an issue for me as important information is not obscured and it takes only a slight head movement to view the outside screens. I also need to move my head slightly to view outer gages in my 991. My height is 5' 9".
Given how much some folks are complaining about the obstructed side gauges here, I am surprised that Porsche doesn't offer an option to put the fuel gauge and clock in the center of the dash, because apparently, this is some vital effing info some drivers. :P Seriously, there's at least one other clock visible in the car -- two additional clocks if you have the Chrono package. When you have the engine data gauge selected to the right of tach, fuel/range is displayed there -- also redundant, along with everything that you care about. There's so much redundancy with this dash that I don't even use the speedo in this car, because the tachometer also displays it right there.
Seriously, there's at least one other clock visible in the car -- two additional clocks if you have the Chrono package. When you have the engine data gauge selected to the right of tach, fuel/range is displayed there -- also redundant, along with everything that you care about. There's so much redundancy with this dash that I don't even use the speedo in this car, because the tachometer also displays it right there.
EXACTLY THIS!!! I cannot believe people are complaining about obstructed outer dials - it takes less head movement to see them than checking the side mirrors anyway.
Makes me wonder if my back or neck or head is out of alignment but I just did ~700 mi in my 991 over the weekend and the right most gauge is partially obstructed for me to see, but not the left most...
The only gauges I even care about in the 991 is 1) the tach (center) and 2) to the right of the tach the MFD display so I can switch between tire pressure and oil/coolant temp
I have never ever cared to look at the analog oil temp/pressure gauge, manual speedo gauge, or coolant gauge. Maybe I'll glance occasionally at the fuel level but also use range in MFD to dictate when I need to pit stop for fuel
So for me this is much ado about nothing thinking in practical terms for the 992, YMMV
10-19-2019 | 09:48 PM
