992 dash, should they have gone backwards with the look?
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992 dash, should they have gone backwards with the look?
I've sold my 997, opting to have a look at the 992 then decide between that or the 991. One of the common complaints throughout the 992 forum is the interior (Panamera like, big screen TV that will look outdated in a few years and so on). While I love gadgets and digital do-dads, and complained a lot about the 997's lack of just connecting your phone... I'm wondering if Porsche missed something by not going back to a more retro look. Not suggesting that they truly go back to analog but mimic the gage look of a 993 (like the singer dash) or maybe the old vette's. IMHO
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Some people are more comfortable with change than others. The 991 interior looked dated when it was released. The 992 is a huge step forward. Infact I'm stretching my budget to get a new 992 vs a cheaper 991 because of the new design changes. The only thing I don't like is the nubbin and the obscure side dials.
They took design cues from earlier generations with the 992 interior. The minimal design is clean and tidy.
They took design cues from earlier generations with the 992 interior. The minimal design is clean and tidy.
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I've sold my 997, opting to have a look at the 992 then decide between that or the 991. One of the common complaints throughout the 992 forum is the interior (Panamera like, big screen TV that will look outdated in a few years and so on). While I love gadgets and digital do-dads, and complained a lot about the 997's lack of just connecting your phone... I'm wondering if Porsche missed something by not going back to a more retro look. Not suggesting that they truly go back to analog but mimic the gage look of a 993 (like the singer dash) or maybe the old vette's. IMHO
Well, they actually went retro style on the center engine speed gauge in the 992, have a look into the actual needle and the needle center cap.
More images to compare here:
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019...cia-16966.html
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Some people are more comfortable with change than others. The 991 interior looked dated when it was released. The 992 is a huge step forward. Infact I'm stretching my budget to get a new 992 vs a cheaper 991 because of the new design changes. The only thing I don't like is the nubbin and the obscure side dials.
They took design cues from earlier generations with the 992 interior. The minimal design is clean and tidy.
They took design cues from earlier generations with the 992 interior. The minimal design is clean and tidy.
Absolutely they should go back to analog gauges where they can - something quality like the last Vantage. Screen technology changes so fast that the more of it you have - the trashier the vehicle looks as it ages. No vehicle has had as much "tech" as the 992 making it likely to be the worst-aging 911 ever made. It's already arguably the most overpriced and therefore I honestly think will be the highest-depreciating 911 ever made. These statements have nothing to do with being "comfortable with change" - they have to do with common-sense and looking at automotive interior design over the last 70 years.
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Owning a 993 - there's next to nothing similar between a 992 and a 993's interior. When my 993 grows a pair of 30" iPads maybe I'll change my mind.
Absolutely they should go back to analog gauges where they can - something quality like the last Vantage. Screen technology changes so fast that the more of it you have - the trashier the vehicle looks as it ages. No vehicle has had as much "tech" as the 992 making it likely to be the worst-aging 911 ever made. It's already arguably the most overpriced and therefore I honestly think will be the highest-depreciating 911 ever made. These statements have nothing to do with being "comfortable with change" - they have to do with common-sense and looking at automotive interior design over the last 70 years.
Absolutely they should go back to analog gauges where they can - something quality like the last Vantage. Screen technology changes so fast that the more of it you have - the trashier the vehicle looks as it ages. No vehicle has had as much "tech" as the 992 making it likely to be the worst-aging 911 ever made. It's already arguably the most overpriced and therefore I honestly think will be the highest-depreciating 911 ever made. These statements have nothing to do with being "comfortable with change" - they have to do with common-sense and looking at automotive interior design over the last 70 years.
However I agree with your point. The technology chosen for the 992 was not wise. It will not age well. Because of the poorly implementation and selection of tech..
Specifically the 992 infotainment systems take a lot of time to startup. So your first experience or driving a brand new 992 and doing a quick drive-away you are surrounded by “loading” animations that last half minute to show all options and work smoothly... this is very sad
on the contrary the digital instrument display works and boots quite fast and reacts aproperly. I think that will age very very very well. And the smaller digital disks blocked by the steering wheel it’s a homage to the first generations 911 that the steering wheel also covered the smaller analog dials.
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Yes, they should absolutely go back to NO NONSENSE basic sports car dashboards and interiors. Simple, clean and free from as much distraction as possible. Most importantly, easy to use controls with physical sensation and tactile feedback that require at most a fraction of a second glace away from the road.
The people who are advocating for all this gimmick,crap tech appear confused about what a car does and therefore should simply sit in the safety of their home with their i pads while the rest of us would like to be out and driving while focusing our attention on the only screen that matters.
The people who are advocating for all this gimmick,crap tech appear confused about what a car does and therefore should simply sit in the safety of their home with their i pads while the rest of us would like to be out and driving while focusing our attention on the only screen that matters.
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Something about a crisp analog gages.
RobMtz, exactly why I put this up...the 992 looks like the 964 styling but the gages seem to get lost/blended with the center console dash.
Limegreen, My son was showing me the dash in the hermes speedster:
https://www.boot.com/en/Motorboating...en_Seas_Yachts
love the jeweled look/feel of the gages.
RobMtz, exactly why I put this up...the 992 looks like the 964 styling but the gages seem to get lost/blended with the center console dash.
Limegreen, My son was showing me the dash in the hermes speedster:
https://www.boot.com/en/Motorboating...en_Seas_Yachts
love the jeweled look/feel of the gages.
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So, I hate the new 992 dash and interior. After 5 years in the cayman gts, still love that look. I have a deposit down on a gt4 but was thinking to hold out for the next gen gt3. We think it will share much of this interior or be more sporty and inline with current gt cars?
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Mithiral67 - from spy shots, the GT3 PDK will have a gear shifter, which (to many of us) is a huge plus. No #nubbin in the GT3. As for the tech and the dash in general, I would be very surprised if it deviated much from the rest of the 911 lineup. The 991 interior was very uniform across the board (Carreras, Turbos, GT cars). I would be surprised if Porsche deviates from this formula in the 992.
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Mithiral67 - from spy shots, the GT3 PDK will have a gear shifter, which (to many of us) is a huge plus. No #nubbin in the GT3. As for the tech and the dash in general, I would be very surprised if it deviated much from the rest of the 911 lineup. The 991 interior was very uniform across the board (Carreras, Turbos, GT cars). I would be surprised if Porsche deviates from this formula in the 992.
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new high tech 992 dash is growing on me, actually the entire futuristic ethos of the car, interior and exterior, is growing on me
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Mithiral67 - from spy shots, the GT3 PDK will have a gear shifter, which (to many of us) is a huge plus. No #nubbin in the GT3. As for the tech and the dash in general, I would be very surprised if it deviated much from the rest of the 911 lineup. The 991 interior was very uniform across the board (Carreras, Turbos, GT cars). I would be surprised if Porsche deviates from this formula in the 992.
I plan to skip the entire 992 GT3 generation for this reason among others. If I was you I’d start hunting for your ideal used 991.2 GT3.
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I forget who posted a view along the lines that ‘the design A Team was assigned to the Taycan’ but I’m not sure that is the case.
These interior shots suggest to me that the Taycan interior may well be the source of the screen-acreage, the haptic buttons, and cup holder-gate.
Looks like the 911 team were directed to harmonise their design. One can imagine the Teutonic stand-off over analogue vs digital clocks. I suspect the 911 team understand exactly the compromises they have had to make in the name of a P-brand design language.
More here: https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...ealed-gallery/
These interior shots suggest to me that the Taycan interior may well be the source of the screen-acreage, the haptic buttons, and cup holder-gate.
Looks like the 911 team were directed to harmonise their design. One can imagine the Teutonic stand-off over analogue vs digital clocks. I suspect the 911 team understand exactly the compromises they have had to make in the name of a P-brand design language.
More here: https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...ealed-gallery/