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I'm providing a valuable service to people considering burning tens of thousands of dollars annually via depreciation of their hard-earned wealth on what may be the most overpriced, worst-value 911 in history. 379hp for what will easily cost north of $100,000 in MY2020?
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I have found the next car for my wife. The base coupe with pdk under $100k with slight discount should be perfect. It should be as quick as the 911T but with more comfort and tech.
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Burning Brakes
The horsepower increase is deceptive. The 992 base model is actually 15 hp up on the 991.2 base, but Porsche has changed the way it is rating power in the US.
For some years, Porsche has stated that the US power output in English HP was the same as the German output in PS. This was, of course, impossible, since an English HP is about 1.4% more powerful than a German PS--550 ft-lbs of work per second versus 75 kg-m (542.6 ft-lbs) of work per second. The justification was that Porsche was very conservative with its power ratings, so that while just about every car exceeded the claimed PS output in Europe, the cars would at least average their HP output in America.
Now Porsche, and Audi as well, has chosen to paly it straight, perhaps due to Dieselgate and its fallout throughout the VW empire.
If you go by the kW ratings, which are universal, this ambiguity never existed. Based on that:
The 991.2 base was rated at 272 kW, which is equal to 364.75 HP. The 992 base is rated at 283 kW, or 379.5 HP, for an increase of 14.8 HP.
The 991.2 S was rated at 309 kW, which is equal to 414.4 HP. The 992 S is rated at 331 kW, or 443.9 HP, for an increase of 29.5 HP.
Of course this means that the previously stated power for the 991.1s, all of the 997s and the 996s, including Turbo and GT models, all have to be downrated to match the new scheme. How fun.
For some years, Porsche has stated that the US power output in English HP was the same as the German output in PS. This was, of course, impossible, since an English HP is about 1.4% more powerful than a German PS--550 ft-lbs of work per second versus 75 kg-m (542.6 ft-lbs) of work per second. The justification was that Porsche was very conservative with its power ratings, so that while just about every car exceeded the claimed PS output in Europe, the cars would at least average their HP output in America.
Now Porsche, and Audi as well, has chosen to paly it straight, perhaps due to Dieselgate and its fallout throughout the VW empire.
If you go by the kW ratings, which are universal, this ambiguity never existed. Based on that:
The 991.2 base was rated at 272 kW, which is equal to 364.75 HP. The 992 base is rated at 283 kW, or 379.5 HP, for an increase of 14.8 HP.
The 991.2 S was rated at 309 kW, which is equal to 414.4 HP. The 992 S is rated at 331 kW, or 443.9 HP, for an increase of 29.5 HP.
Of course this means that the previously stated power for the 991.1s, all of the 997s and the 996s, including Turbo and GT models, all have to be downrated to match the new scheme. How fun.
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#27
Race Director
Originally Posted by Riz
I have found the next car for my wife. The base coupe with pdk under $100k with slight discount should be perfect. It should be as quick as the 911T but with more comfort and tech.
Wait until you add some options ..
#28
Don't know why you guys are complaining about the price...
Base 992 price in Belgium: 118.800 USD / cabriolet: 134.800 USD
In the Netherlands: 156.000 USD (coupe) / 173.800 USD (cabriolet)
Base 992 price in Belgium: 118.800 USD / cabriolet: 134.800 USD
In the Netherlands: 156.000 USD (coupe) / 173.800 USD (cabriolet)
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Refresher:
Model/output/weight/0-100/vmax
2019 911 Carrera: 385 PS (283 kW) / 450 Nm / 1505 kg / 4.2-4.0 s / 293 km/h (PDK)
2016 911 Carrera: 370 PS (272 kW) / 450 Nm / 1450 kg / 4.4-4.2 s / 291 km/h (PDK)
2011 911 Carrera: 350 PS (257 kW) / 430 Nm / 1400 kg / 4.6-4.4 s / 287 km/h (PDK)
2008 911 Carrera: 345 PS (254 kW) / 390 Nm / 1445 kg / 4.7-4.5 s / 287 km/h (PDK)
2004 911 Carrera: 325 PS (239 kW) / 370 Nm / 1435 kg / 5.5 s / 280 km/h (Tiptronic S)
2001 911 Carrera: 320 PS (235 kW) / 370 Nm / 1370 kg / 5.5 s / 280 km/h (Tiptronic S)
1997 911 Carrera: 300 PS (221 kW) / 350 Nm / 1365 kg / 6.0 s / 275 km/h (Tiptronic S)
1996 911 Carrera: 286 PS (210 kW) / 340 Nm / 1425 kg / 6.4 s / 270 km/h (Tiptronic S)
1993 911 Carrera: 272 PS (200 kW) / 330 Nm / 1395 kg / 6.6 s / 265 km/h (Tiptronic)
1989 911 Carrera: 250 PS (184 kW) / 310 Nm / 1405 kg / 6.6 s / 256 km/h (Tiptronic)
Model/output/weight/0-100/vmax
2019 911 Carrera: 385 PS (283 kW) / 450 Nm / 1505 kg / 4.2-4.0 s / 293 km/h (PDK)
2016 911 Carrera: 370 PS (272 kW) / 450 Nm / 1450 kg / 4.4-4.2 s / 291 km/h (PDK)
2011 911 Carrera: 350 PS (257 kW) / 430 Nm / 1400 kg / 4.6-4.4 s / 287 km/h (PDK)
2008 911 Carrera: 345 PS (254 kW) / 390 Nm / 1445 kg / 4.7-4.5 s / 287 km/h (PDK)
2004 911 Carrera: 325 PS (239 kW) / 370 Nm / 1435 kg / 5.5 s / 280 km/h (Tiptronic S)
2001 911 Carrera: 320 PS (235 kW) / 370 Nm / 1370 kg / 5.5 s / 280 km/h (Tiptronic S)
1997 911 Carrera: 300 PS (221 kW) / 350 Nm / 1365 kg / 6.0 s / 275 km/h (Tiptronic S)
1996 911 Carrera: 286 PS (210 kW) / 340 Nm / 1425 kg / 6.4 s / 270 km/h (Tiptronic S)
1993 911 Carrera: 272 PS (200 kW) / 330 Nm / 1395 kg / 6.6 s / 265 km/h (Tiptronic)
1989 911 Carrera: 250 PS (184 kW) / 310 Nm / 1405 kg / 6.6 s / 256 km/h (Tiptronic)
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