It’s a 991.3
01-28-2019, 09:20 PM
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02-06-2019, 04:36 AM
#18
Architecture, proportions and wheelbase are identical. And carry over engines are normal for new generation cars. This certainly isn't an absolute change in complete design philosophy like the 997>991 was. But at the end of the day, all 911's are incremental evolutions from one another, no revolutionary changes, and that's what keeps it so iconic, unique, timeless and sought after. It's the one model in the entire car market (aside from the *barf* G Wagon) that is treated as such a sacred piece of art, they don't radically change it for the sake of short term "popping smoke" effect. And that's what makes it the benchmark legend. You drive a new 911, it's like having a fresh new car and insta classic at the same time.
02-06-2019, 06:46 AM
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02-06-2019, 10:20 PM
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02-06-2019, 11:31 PM
#21
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Architecture, proportions and wheelbase are identical. And carry over engines are normal for new generation cars. This certainly isn't an absolute change in complete design philosophy like the 997>991 was. But at the end of the day, all 911's are incremental evolutions from one another, no revolutionary changes, and that's what keeps it so iconic, unique, timeless and sought after. It's the one model in the entire car market (aside from the *barf* G Wagon) that is treated as such a sacred piece of art, they don't radically change it for the sake of short term "popping smoke" effect. And that's what makes it the benchmark legend. You drive a new 911, it's like having a fresh new car and insta classic at the same time.
Interestingly, the new JLs don't seem to have attracted quite as many "This time they've really ruined it" comments as the 992.
02-08-2019, 09:38 AM
#22
The Jeep Wrangler would be a better analogy than the G-Wagen, IMO. FCA knows not to mess with the Wrangler the same way an eight-year-old knows that stoves get really f***ing hot.
Interestingly, the new JLs don't seem to have attracted quite as many "This time they've really ruined it" comments as the 992.
Interestingly, the new JLs don't seem to have attracted quite as many "This time they've really ruined it" comments as the 992.
02-08-2019, 02:33 PM
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Going to put my flame suit on and go out on a limb to agree with you, OP. To me it looks like a refreshed 991.2, and the move is certainly not close to the 993>996 leap, nor the 996>997. The 997>991 was a far bigger update. Heck, even the 991.1>991.2 was more of a sea change as everything became turbo'd.
The funniest part to me though has been 991 fans and owners convincing themselves that their cars are some kind of boutique Enthusiasts Only throwback and not just as much the mass-market Panamera Coupe for Chinese dentists as the 992 is. Let's also not forget that the 991's interior (particularly compared to previous gens) was a button-riddled gadget fest and quite similar in design to the contemporaneous Panamera's.
I'm in a 997 myself but I'm not going to pretend it's from a bygone era when Porsche was a niche sports car maker.
The funniest part to me though has been 991 fans and owners convincing themselves that their cars are some kind of boutique Enthusiasts Only throwback and not just as much the mass-market Panamera Coupe for Chinese dentists as the 992 is. Let's also not forget that the 991's interior (particularly compared to previous gens) was a button-riddled gadget fest and quite similar in design to the contemporaneous Panamera's.
I'm in a 997 myself but I'm not going to pretend it's from a bygone era when Porsche was a niche sports car maker.
02-09-2019, 02:34 AM
#24
I'm confused--I thought the 992 was the first 911 to use the MMB platform?
Just because the dimensions are the same doesn't mean it is the same. I expect they went to great lengths to KEEP it as similar as possible. Switching the platform is almost as big of a deal as going air cooled to water cooled.
Or did the platform switch not happen?
Just because the dimensions are the same doesn't mean it is the same. I expect they went to great lengths to KEEP it as similar as possible. Switching the platform is almost as big of a deal as going air cooled to water cooled.
Or did the platform switch not happen?