My LA Auto Show Review of 992: Less than Meh
12-02-2018, 02:07 PM
#61
I for one love the revisions and changes done to the 992. I say "its about time". Finally an interior with a decent modern infotainment screen thats on par with the competition. The shifter ****? THANK GOD. This is the best part of the entire interior. You use that stupid shifter in a PDK for about 2 seconds on every 15 minute to 4 hour drive -- to put the damn car in gear and go. After that you never touch the thing. There's no reason something used so sparingly should take up any more space than it needs to. You have paddles -- use them. Big center console shift gates for automatic cars are a huge waste of space and just get in the way of using center consoles anyway where you have to contort your hands to find buttons. Finally Porsche let common sense prevail and ditched the pointless thing. Really digging the new interior color choices. I like the overall layout of the dash. Very clean horizontal lines. I cant believe people are actually complaining about the layout and buttons and ergonomics. Ever driven a G series 911? I have buttons on the dash I CANT EVEN SEE. You have to FEEL FOR THEM in the most ridiculous places one would ever even consider putting switches. Its so absurd is a mockery of design. I can deal with smudge prints on the 992 layout by comparison as its far more forgivable.
Personally, on my Targa 4GTS I always use the center shifter in manual mode because in automatic mode it shifts too soon and finding the mini-paddles that the car is equipped with is a joke.
Put some realistically sized paddles on the car like I have on my 488 and program the ECU to shift at the proper RPM's and then we can talk.
12-02-2018, 02:13 PM
#62
Speak for yourself bud.
Personally, on my Targa 4GTS I always use the center shifter in manual mode because in automatic mode it shifts too soon and finding the mini-paddles that the car is equipped with is a joke.
Put some realistically sized paddles on the car like I have on my 488 and program the ECU to shift at the proper RPM's and then we can talk.
Personally, on my Targa 4GTS I always use the center shifter in manual mode because in automatic mode it shifts too soon and finding the mini-paddles that the car is equipped with is a joke.
Put some realistically sized paddles on the car like I have on my 488 and program the ECU to shift at the proper RPM's and then we can talk.
That's why I use manual all the time,....and the standard paddles are a joke,.....and the shifter rules for my enjoyment.
12-02-2018, 02:29 PM
#64
12-02-2018, 02:36 PM
#65
Race Car
Ok well feel free to pass along your MSRP GT allocations my way because you are all full of it. Most in this thread will be happy to buy. Happens every new release.
12-02-2018, 02:50 PM
#66
It’s not about bashing or hating. It’s about being disappointed. Disappointed at how good it could
have been. Yes these same “haters” will become purchasers. We are mostly captive. We have few other choices so we cave and purchase.
I personally think the peole responsible for designing and signing off on the rear should be demoted, but what do I know? An extremely high placed friend in Wolfsburg text me “The new 911 looks dope”. He is in his 20’s, I am in my 50’s. He wasn’t even alive when I started my Porsche obsession (1980’s) but his generation is soon going to be in charge.
That’s reality. To stay in the brand I am going to have to get comfortable with the direction the kids are taking the designs.
Still....please get rid of that afterthought blob of a brake light in the 992.2! Are you listening Herr Blume?
have been. Yes these same “haters” will become purchasers. We are mostly captive. We have few other choices so we cave and purchase.
I personally think the peole responsible for designing and signing off on the rear should be demoted, but what do I know? An extremely high placed friend in Wolfsburg text me “The new 911 looks dope”. He is in his 20’s, I am in my 50’s. He wasn’t even alive when I started my Porsche obsession (1980’s) but his generation is soon going to be in charge.
That’s reality. To stay in the brand I am going to have to get comfortable with the direction the kids are taking the designs.
Still....please get rid of that afterthought blob of a brake light in the 992.2! Are you listening Herr Blume?
12-02-2018, 03:47 PM
#69
Burning Brakes
12-02-2018, 03:54 PM
#70
Drifting
Thanks Papa F - I totally agree. And based on my exposure to AP in press clippings and videos, I am confident that he is going to do his absolute best to make sure the 992 GT3 is an amazing vehicle, even though his cohorts in the Carrera division have given him a less than stellar platform with which to work.
12-02-2018, 04:00 PM
#71
Instructor
Can't stand the presence of shiny black plastic in an interior especially on a center counsel area where it will reflect into your eyes, get scratched and look terrible in a year. Really bad decision. Other than that I am ok with the interior but confused by what is being accomplished by the gear shifter design. I suppose their research shows most use the paddles or allow the car to automatically shift.
12-02-2018, 04:37 PM
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After my 996 C1 and 997 tt, I thought my 991 was an old guy GT car. I’m going to test drive a boxster and there’s a 37k 993 up the coast...
12-02-2018, 05:08 PM
#74
Burning Brakes
Bingo,....in non-sport the auto is ridiculous,...in sport it is better but not much fun either,.....and then their is sport+ which is a bit overkill most of the time.
That's why I use manual all the time,....and the standard paddles are a joke,.....and the shifter rules for my enjoyment.
That's why I use manual all the time,....and the standard paddles are a joke,.....and the shifter rules for my enjoyment.
12-02-2018, 05:47 PM
#75
992 Review
II attended the press launch and LA auto show viewing off the 992-911...
I was a bit disappointed by the evolution of the exterior of the 992—primarily the front clip——way too much Aston Martin Vantage influence in the nose section...and the angles and hard edges have lamborghini style writtten all over it....and lastly...the car looks like a panamerra sedan....great for the sedan but nothing the 911 should aspire to do....the shifter looks really bad and out of place...my wife liked the car but did not love it...same for me....I’m not saying I wont eventually purchase one but this design , while not the disasterous 996 evolution...isn’t the home run I was hoping for....car looks much bigger than current 911....more presence I guess...but I really enjoy the smaller athletic looking 911 iterations....I wouldn’t fire the design team but I wouldn’t be paying them a bonus either...lol
Cheers
I was a bit disappointed by the evolution of the exterior of the 992—primarily the front clip——way too much Aston Martin Vantage influence in the nose section...and the angles and hard edges have lamborghini style writtten all over it....and lastly...the car looks like a panamerra sedan....great for the sedan but nothing the 911 should aspire to do....the shifter looks really bad and out of place...my wife liked the car but did not love it...same for me....I’m not saying I wont eventually purchase one but this design , while not the disasterous 996 evolution...isn’t the home run I was hoping for....car looks much bigger than current 911....more presence I guess...but I really enjoy the smaller athletic looking 911 iterations....I wouldn’t fire the design team but I wouldn’t be paying them a bonus either...lol
Cheers