My LA Auto Show Review of 992: Less than Meh
12-03-2018 | 12:53 AM
#91
Racer
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From: Orange County
Wow. Is that what Porsche enthusiast come down to? Talking down to people who doesn't having a Porsche yet? Really?! I have a family, 2 kids to feed, other priorities in life before buying a luxury car. Yes, I am not rich like yourself, but I am by no mean poor (or not able to pay for one in cash) too. I will buy when other higher financial priorities are taken care of first. Maybe a Porsche, maybe something else. Who knows. It's ashamed to see people like you in a supposedly well respected Porsche forum.
On the other hand my x5m is being traded for my incoming 991.2 C2S because I have not connected at all owning it for 3 years.
12-03-2018 | 01:20 AM
#92
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I don't know wtf he's talking about. I have had 3 generations of M3's, and my '15 m3 has been a complete joy to own and drive. The best trait is when a car rewards your skill with very consistent runs and will punish you when you make bad decisions, which is what the m3 is all about for me.
On the other hand my x5m is being traded for my incoming 991.2 C2S because I have not connected at all owning it for 3 years.
On the other hand my x5m is being traded for my incoming 991.2 C2S because I have not connected at all owning it for 3 years.
12-03-2018 | 02:07 AM
#93
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From: Chandler, AZ
12-03-2018 | 02:18 AM
#94
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From: Orange County
12-03-2018 | 03:33 AM
#96
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Yeow. Last Jedi was terrible in several ways. I'm tried to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it was terrible. It was last time I I'm ever going to see a Star wars movie in the theater while kathleen kennedy is running the show.
12-03-2018 | 08:41 AM
#97
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Chasing the biggest profits usually end up doing whatever to keep chasing increases. Bigger isn't always better. Many companies have lost the vision the bigger they get.
Big budgets and worse designs. Like the saying says .... Having money doesn't always equal having class.
This 992 release has been pretty pathetic. The whole "LA show" was like a bad movie remake or sequel. Take your pick. Anything come to mind??
Big budgets and worse designs. Like the saying says .... Having money doesn't always equal having class.
This 992 release has been pretty pathetic. The whole "LA show" was like a bad movie remake or sequel. Take your pick. Anything come to mind??
12-03-2018 | 02:03 PM
#101
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From: Phoenix
Bingo,....in non-sport the auto is ridiculous,...in sport it is better but not much fun either,.....and then their is sport+ which is a bit overkill most of the time.
That's why I use manual all the time,....and the standard paddles are a joke,.....and the shifter rules for my enjoyment.
That's why I use manual all the time,....and the standard paddles are a joke,.....and the shifter rules for my enjoyment.
12-03-2018 | 11:55 PM
#102
Burning Brakes
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From: SF Bay Area
911 has always been defined by long overhangs, especially in the rear, but 991 was going the opposite direction and it has perhaps the shortest overhangs of all of the 911s and I love it. So here goes
17. Longer overhangs with same wheel base length.
17. Longer overhangs with same wheel base length.
12-04-2018 | 12:09 AM
#104
Burning Brakes
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From: SF Bay Area
So here goes the list:
1. Cheap, tacky looking shifter - what a joke this little nub is - awful...something MAYBE Jaguar would conjure up.
2. Mustang-esque toggle switches on dash.
3. Cheap, flimsy door pockets.
4. Squared-off frunk lid.
5. Grotesque 3rd brake light.
6. Uninspired front bumper cover, front view now looks like a VW beetle
7. flush door handles
8. fake exhaust
9. disjointed dash treatment, looks like an 80's oldsmobile
10. huge negative space between the new IP cluster and nav screen, just looks unfinished
11. center console is a mess
12. behind the nubbin, the vertical recessed "nubin juniors" just create a dust trap
13. rotary drive mode - missed opportunity to put drive mode selection back on the (massive) center console
plus...
14. the HVAC vents behind the nubbin appear too small, cheap and an afterthought...placement is wrong
15. Ugly side mirrors.
16. Cupholder positioned where it will be hard to use with MT.
17. Longer overhangs with same wheel base length.
18. CS rear wheels are too large to my taste.
1. Cheap, tacky looking shifter - what a joke this little nub is - awful...something MAYBE Jaguar would conjure up.
2. Mustang-esque toggle switches on dash.
3. Cheap, flimsy door pockets.
4. Squared-off frunk lid.
5. Grotesque 3rd brake light.
6. Uninspired front bumper cover, front view now looks like a VW beetle
7. flush door handles
8. fake exhaust
9. disjointed dash treatment, looks like an 80's oldsmobile
10. huge negative space between the new IP cluster and nav screen, just looks unfinished
11. center console is a mess
12. behind the nubbin, the vertical recessed "nubin juniors" just create a dust trap
13. rotary drive mode - missed opportunity to put drive mode selection back on the (massive) center console
plus...
14. the HVAC vents behind the nubbin appear too small, cheap and an afterthought...placement is wrong
15. Ugly side mirrors.
16. Cupholder positioned where it will be hard to use with MT.
17. Longer overhangs with same wheel base length.
18. CS rear wheels are too large to my taste.
12-04-2018 | 01:21 AM
#105
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From: Destin, Nashville, In a 458 Challenge
Wow. Is that what Porsche enthusiast come down to? Talking down to people who doesn't having a Porsche yet? Really?! I have a family, 2 kids to feed, other priorities in life before buying a luxury car. Yes, I am not rich like yourself, but I am by no mean poor (or not able to pay for one in cash) too. I will buy when other higher financial priorities are taken care of first. Maybe a Porsche, maybe something else. Who knows. It's ashamed to see people like you in a supposedly well respected Porsche forum: Mean spirited, rude and everything in between.
I don't know wtf he's talking about. I have had 3 generations of M3's, and my '15 m3 has been a complete joy to own and drive. The best trait is when a car rewards your skill with very consistent runs and will punish you when you make bad decisions, which is what the m3 is all about for me.
On the other hand my x5m is being traded for my incoming 991.2 C2S because I have not connected at all owning it for 3 years.
On the other hand my x5m is being traded for my incoming 991.2 C2S because I have not connected at all owning it for 3 years.