Shaver Knob
11-28-2018 | 08:26 PM
#17
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From: Newport Beach, CA and Melbourne, Australia
The whole interior revamp fails for me. As an old 997 owner I really appreciated the simplicity of that design, and while it’s dated now esp. around the technology many things just worked. Like the window switches, at least on a RHD car you could raise and lower the drivers window with one flick of your little finger. Hand never needed to leave the wheel. The gear lever was lovely leather that was a very tactile and comfortable place to rest your hand when waiting for traffic. It also got better with use. The console was simple and fitted the character of a 911, as did the dash generally.
All that has gone now. What we have now seems to mimic what BMW and Mercedes also have in their cars. Two digital slabs with a few design elements thrown in below. Sad.
All that has gone now. What we have now seems to mimic what BMW and Mercedes also have in their cars. Two digital slabs with a few design elements thrown in below. Sad.
11-29-2018 | 01:47 AM
#21
Pro
Joined: May 2013
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From: Somewhere in Space....the final frontier
This is what I have to do. I know we have some HFM in here.
Lets put some right people in the board of VW and change the direction of management.
I want to do what Kenny Powers did the with the company shares!!! I am not kidding.
Lets put some right people in the board of VW and change the direction of management.
I want to do what Kenny Powers did the with the company shares!!! I am not kidding.
Last edited by captainkirk; 11-29-2018 at 01:50 AM. Reason: typing error
11-29-2018 | 02:49 AM
#22
Drifting
Joined: Mar 2012
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I've sat in a 992 and felt the nubbin in person. It's a complete joke and disaster.
Not surprisingly, since then, I use my shifter to shift most often, as I've increasingly appreciated the feel, more connective feedback (than a nubbin) and ergonomics.
Not surprisingly, since then, I use my shifter to shift most often, as I've increasingly appreciated the feel, more connective feedback (than a nubbin) and ergonomics.
11-29-2018 | 03:12 AM
#23
Racer
Joined: Aug 2018
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Now more for the topic discussion. I have a very valid conspiracy theory why nubbin is there in the first place but I must be very careful. Let's say it has to do with the biggest market being Asia now and certain regional male attributes of the target group. They were showing cardboard with a different sifter shapes and the nubbin was the most comfortable for the group!
... so you're saying if it were an African market, the shifter would be...
11-29-2018 | 09:09 AM
#24
Burning Brakes
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 802
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From: Albuquerque
1. The general public that will never drive a 911. I don't really care what they think about the interior changes.
2. People who drive a 911 for status reasons. They may not care about the shaver either, but are a concern because they buy cars, and that influences Porsche.
3. People who actually enjoy a 911 for the driving experience. The changes may or may not bug people in this group. I know I sure don't like the shaver. I don't know how I feel about the other console changes, since I haven't sat in one and haven't driven one. I do appreciate the readily accessible front lift button, and I'd be seriously annoyed with needing to go through menus to turn that on.
4. Track monsters. They probably aren't going to care because the paddles are the only controls they use regularly, and they still work.
11-29-2018 | 05:13 PM
#25
Instructor
Joined: Jan 2017
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Change is hard to accept for most. Anyone that thinks the Chinese market has anything to do with the shifter is nuts. Porsche is simply trying to get up to the 21st century on the center console design for a modern day supercar. There is not one single supercar or hypercar that has a shifter from the console. Welcome to the party! Better late than never...
11-29-2018 | 06:18 PM
#26
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From: Berkeley Lake, Georgia
Exactly right! They are looking for brand new customers outside of the Porsche loyalists to sell more overall cars.......the new 911 design now blends in with the other Porsche models.........also looks like a targeting of new markets with this design not interior and exterior, i.e. rear end lights, i.e. China and Asia where there is more potential sales growth....shifter is beyond understanding for me...........
11-29-2018 | 06:53 PM
#27
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From: USA
I think the shaver **** looks like my AKG C414 condenser microphone I used to record with. Just weird - Porsche has messed up these things before. Remember the old tiptronic buttons, the steering wheel buttons instead of paddles in the 997/991, the shifter going forward to upshift etc.
11-30-2018 | 12:14 PM
#29
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From: Holly Springs, NC
I think the shaver **** looks like my AKG C414 condenser microphone I used to record with. Just weird - Porsche has messed up these things before. Remember the old tiptronic buttons, the steering wheel buttons instead of paddles in the 997/991, the shifter going forward to upshift etc.
the shifter still goes forward in my 2017 Macan GTS to upshift
i am amazed it is still such a major fail
i usually drive it in automatic mode with sport mode and stiffest suspension setting
yes it is no sports car but it is a great fun modern Porsche practical vehicle (that was for the posters in other threads poopooing any Porsche SUV effort)
back to the 992, the interior is cheap hideous and a major fail and the exterior front and rear are horrible
so much for a planned euro delivery in fall of 2019
i had great hopes for the 992 but my 993 will stay forever
maybe down the line the funds that would’ve gone for a 992 euro delivery can go to a 991.2 GT3 manual, albeit preowned
