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There are fun times ahead for 991 owners here on Rennlist.
We are now entering the "previous generation phase" of Porsche ownership, taking over for our friends on the 997 boards. This entitles us to boldly declare that the 991 is the last true Porsche sports car. It's raw and visceral. It's the perfect combination of technology and old-school, analog components. It will surely skyrocket in value with the launch of the 992. It's the perfect 911.
The 992, on the other hand, is nothing more than a soft, bloated, over-weight GT car. It's a 2 door Panamera. It's huge, extremely heavy, and clearly designed for people who are not Porsche enthusiasts.
PTS-BRG asked: "Any thoughts on why they staggered the wheels to 20" front and 21" rear for all models?"
IMO, it can only be to lower the drag coefficient. Pressure from greenie-driven EU environmental regulations are in an ever-tightening grip on new model year designs.
Its like a giant anaconda, constricting more and more. .
There are fun times ahead for 991 owners here on Rennlist.
We are now entering the "previous generation phase" of Porsche ownership, taking over for our friends on the 997 boards. This entitles us to boldly declare that the 991 is the last true Porsche sports car. It's raw and visceral. It's the perfect combination of technology and old-school, analog components. It will surely skyrocket in value with the launch of the 992. It's the perfect 911.
The 992, on the other hand, is nothing more than a soft, bloated, over-weight GT car. It's a 2 door Panamera. It's huge, extremely heavy, and clearly designed for people who are not Porsche enthusiasts.
Interior is nice and not nice. Not gonna beat the shifter any more...I don't like it, but whatever.
Digital instruments is letdown imo. Everything else looks nice for the most part.
Meh, idk. I got my 991.2 knowing this was coming. I like my car; maybe when it's time for a GT3 or turbo, I'll get a 992.2 (or whatever it is).
In 2004, I saw this same outrage in the M5 forum where E39 owners blasted the "Bangle Butt" design in the new E60. I owned a beautiful E39 M5 at the time and loved the classic look, but history continually proves that change is inevitable. The M5 survived through its evolution as will the 911.
Where did u see the weights listed? Haven't seen those yet.
My loaded PDK C2S with added weight from full leather, 14 ways, PDCC, Bose, X51 PowerKit, heavy Cocomats, all my junk in the trunk and 2/3 tank of gas weighed 3441 lbs on the Daytona track scales during the PCA Club Races where I was a worker. Porsche said the 2017 991.2s ranged from 3153 to 3682 lbs for the 370-580 Hp versions.
The weights for the new Carrera (and the 991.2 versions) are on Porsche USA’s website.
I don't mind the new 992. It a clear evolution of the iconic car in it's 8th generation. The changes and progress are typical, not surprising and inevitable. My 991.2 Targa GTS is in no near-term peril of being replaced though, not enough motivation from the updates. I love my GTS and love the way I built it. If I could rewind the clock 2 years, I would add PCCBs and would have done manual instead of PDK (nothing at all against the PDK, it's a miracle gear box, I've just since acquired a Macan GTS with a PDK so I'd love to have variety with the 911). But I'm sticking with it.
I'm really liking the 992 so far. Looks so much more muscular now, and I love the bigger wheels. I can't wait to see the sportier GTS and Turbo S, not to mention the GT models.
In 2004, I saw this same outrage in the M5 forum where E39 owners blasted the "Bangle Butt" design in the new E60. I owned a beautiful E39 M5 at the time and loved the classic look, but history continually proves that change is inevitable. The M5 survived through its evolution as will the 911.
Great parallel but we're following more the E30 drivers' car - E36, improved, E46 WOW, E90... V8? At least it's NA and high revving to the garbage M3's that aren't even drivers cars anymore. They have good drag times and that's it.
I am sure the 992 will sell well and be a bit quicker than the 991.2. I did a custom order for my 991.2 C2s and after 2.5 years still love it and plan on keeping it long term. Also these cars are pretty pricey and I am getting close to retirement so probably my 911 will be the one and only one I ever own. The new one is nice but I like the look of the old one much much better.
My first impression is it is way to "Modern" looking. I really like the look of the new Porsche rear ends but not on the 911. The interior? Really! It looks like some modern space aged design of a futuristic car. To me the 911 has heritage and this new 992 is laking that. Sure the side profile has the look but the rear does not. The front also has a basic 911 look and not too much different than the 991.2
I will be content with my 991.2 GTS and thankful the look has not changed for the better. It will be interesting to see what the new Turbo S and GT3's loook like.
The interior toggle switches. These will come down to feel. Are they going to feel like high-quality aviation-level switches, or are they going to feel like cheap plastic Mustang switches?
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Aviation level ? Better hope they dont feel like Boeing switches. The ones that fall off in your hand
Thomas, the slightly odd, yet detail orientated German does a nice job of going through the interior. Believe it or not; he puts the microphone up to the switches and clicks them. It’s quite funny when he gets to the PDK shifter (a.k.a - The Nub). Enjoy
11-28-2018, 12:37 PM
