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Old 10-13-2018, 07:42 PM
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes

Porsche’s lost its way in the past, multiple times, only to refind it. I imagine this is just another one of those cycles. The down part.
Yes, but in those days it was a small independent carmaker.
Making own mistakes and making own decisions to correct them.
Not this time, at least not while VW owns it.
Old 10-14-2018, 12:23 PM
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Technically Porsche Holding owns the VW Group, so...
Old 10-14-2018, 12:27 PM
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Looking forward to actually seeing the launch / production model. The Automobilemag review starts with this:

Thanks in part to a fresh suite of computer-controlled assets, the new 911 is faster, more efficient, and, most importantly, more fun to drive than ever. Though it’s shaping up to be a significant improvement over the outgoing model, the 992 is not a new car down to the pores.

"More fun to drive than ever" from someone who's actually driven the car seems encouraging to me!
Old 10-14-2018, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JMartinni
Technically Porsche Holding owns the VW Group, so...
and to finish off the sentence........Porsche SE is more than 50% owned by the Porsche family.
Old 10-14-2018, 12:42 PM
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The 992 cars that were made available to the press just recently were so called 0-Series 2 cars. The 0-Series 2 is the second pre-production series before Start of Production (SOP) begins. SOP will start end of October with all components in final customer approval status.
Old 10-14-2018, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by garfunkle
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...m=social-media

Car and Driver cliff notes... Lighter, longer, wider. Modest HP bump. Cheaper materials and a lot of plastic replaces leather and metallic parts. No change in engine or suspension. PDK gets another gear between 6th and 7th for a total of 8.
I think we should be careful about these assumptions about plastic parts. The 911 has always had a wide range of trim options. I would believe that if you order more leather, and metallic or carbon fiber trim, you will have less plastic. We also have a ton of plastic in the 991, and some of it is really cheap plastic. The turn signal stalks for instance look like they belong in a VW rather than a Porsche. These are much better on the new Cayenne/Panamera.
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I guess this is from the same test drive https://www.mestmotor.se/automotorsp...-for-purister/

More safety and higher weight they say and the headline is "Nothing for the purist".
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Adding weight from 991.1 >> 991.2 >> 992

992 is also wider and longer
Old 11-20-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by STG
Adding weight from 991.1 >> 991.2 >> 992

992 is also wider and longer
and faster, and more expensive, and better..?
Old 11-20-2018, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Gobbi
and faster, and more expensive, and better..?

More expensive isn't always better and there are always faster cars ....
Old 11-20-2018, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by STG
More expensive isn't always better and there are always faster cars ....
If it weights more, and faster - hence, it must be more powerful, and that's better for a sports car, no? And it's not about just a flat drag race straight speed, it's an agile driving with one of the best performance vehicle chassis.
If not, and you want something else out of sports car, it will be an irrational choice, based on many individual factors, which could not be objectively justified.

And if other people still buy ever-inflated 992, then a non-believer is an exclusion and a renegade, resorted to an internet forums to express his/her dissatisfaction with:
clam spoilers, allergy to a haptic feedback touch buttons, nubbin form denies, 'swear it's my last Porsche which i bought', 'I don't want to stare into the big screen, 'my 197x car was better, and the likes.
You can scream '911 is a Panamera in the making' all day long and nobody but a few concerned relatives will care
Old 11-20-2018, 10:21 AM
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See post #49 again.
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Originally Posted by bob99
Looking forward to actually seeing the launch / production model. The Automobilemag review starts with this:

Thanks in part to a fresh suite of computer-controlled assets, the new 911 is faster, more efficient, and, most importantly, more fun to drive than ever. Though it’s shaping up to be a significant improvement over the outgoing model, the 992 is not a new car down to the pores.

"More fun to drive than ever" from someone who's actually driven the car seems encouraging to me!
"Thanks in part to a fresh suite of computer-controlled assets"
Old 11-28-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by verstraete
Nothing described makes me inclined to move forward from my 991.2.
That's what I'm thinking since the 964 generation.



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